We don't troubleshoot performance issues if the customer is going through a
VPN.  If the router is setup for a VPN, I would have him bypass it.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 10:14 AM Colin Stanners <cstann...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a whole-router VPN solution. Answer: "VPNs will often slow you
> down, because they add extra processing and extra routers in the path, so
> expect lower performance or problems until you fix that issue".
>
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 9:59 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> One remote IP.  My attempts to determine the netblock owner come up with
>> VPN-CONSUMER-NETWORK and AS32181 GigeNET, if I’m reading the info correctly.
>>
>>
>>
>> If I block that src/dst combination at the tower router, after a short
>> time another pops up to replace it.  Until that happens, all Internet in
>> the house ceases to work.
>>
>>
>>
>> This is one of several cases that seem to be getting more prevalent as
>> the COVID thing drags on, customer has teenage or adult sons who are doing
>> stuff the dad doesn’t understand but factor into his complaints to his
>> ISP.  Usually the kids are gamers.  In this case, it’s not just the kids
>> traffic, everything in the house also goes over this UDP tunnel, whatever
>> it is.  The dad complains about things like poor YouTube video quality and
>> taking a long time to buffer, or problems with his Firestick.  But I don’t
>> see that traffic as normal HTTPS or even TCP, just this one UDP connection.
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve had other customer calls that lead me to believe the kids are doing
>> things like using QoS on the router to deprioritize other family members,
>> or block their MAC address, or changing the WiFi password, along with stuff
>> I have no problem with like snaking a long Ethernet cable down the hallway
>> from the router to their bedroom.  All in the name of gaming superiority.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners
>> *Sent:* Monday, June 22, 2020 11:31 PM
>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] VPN?
>>
>>
>>
>> To how many different hosts is the traffic going? That'll give you an
>> idea if it's VPN or something like TOR. Usually if customers are doing
>> something weird and complaining about performance, we first say to stop
>> that weird activity so that our benchmarks (speed / ping / MTR tests) work.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 22, 2020, 7:27 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>> What does it mean if 100% of a customer’s traffic is UDP between high
>> numbered ports?  Does this mean they have configured a VPN service using
>> their router?  If so, would you still troubleshoot any weird complaints of
>> Internet performance, or make them turn it off first?
>>
>>
>>
>> Or does this mean something different that I’m not thinking of?
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