Antifa is like 10 idiots in this town, and 4 idiots in that town, and 6 more in this other place.  All of them sit in their Moms' basements smoking a doobie and playing XBox and crying about how the government is fascist.

"No Central leadership" is a true point....but I take that as evidence that they aren't really a thing at all.  I think you're giving them too much credit.  Calling them terrorists is like calling me a terrorist.  Even if it's true, I'm still irrelevant and so is Antifa.  They're just a distraction.


On 5/31/2020 4:44 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
Antifa is very real, and very dangerous. But they're like Anonymous was when they actually existed, but primarily not on the same fence. By design black bloc is cell based with no central leadership. The US variant of antifa is a corruption of the ideals. Stragglers latched onto european tactics, terminology and perverted the ideology. They're worse than a cult, and they have a cryptic and perverted hierarchy. The vast majority recruited (they have a huge recruitment machine) are outcasts, the type that are going to become a victim of whatever ideology gives them a feeling of importance. Like any cult, gang, etc. They're groomed online until they get given a task. In the mean time they're encouraged to promote anarchy. By the time they are engaged to any serious task, you'd need Guantanamo level interrogation to get them to talk. Martyrdom is heroic. Not getting caught is even more heroic to them. Watch how they swarm, they put bodies against a target, the actor then moves in, makes the attack, backs through the line and disappears, then the crowd disperses and regroups. They're very chaotically organized and you have about the same chance of breaking a cell as you do breaking an ISIS cell. And their ideology is as strong as ISIS. They may have been punks at one point, and they are still physically weak, but they are as dangerous as isis because they believe your life is not as valuable as what they are indoctrinated to believe is right. Black bloc "leadership" arent the folks you'd expect. PayPal, GoFundMe, and bitcoin makes a massive amount of money off of antifa transactions. These kids liken themselves to the French resistance, and they're brainwashed into believing they're similar.

On Sun, May 31, 2020, 3:27 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>> wrote:

    A friend just showed me that they are an officially declared
    terrorist group now, releasing a bunch of fed resources against
    them...

    On 5/31/20 1:17 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

    Weird thing about Antifa is that left wingers think it's a right
    wing group, and right wingers think it's a left wing group. I
    reality, it's probably Russkies messing with us.


    bp
    <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

    On 5/31/2020 11:47 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

    I doubt the existence of Antifa, Boogaloo Bois, and the
    Illuminati, as organized groups with significant resources and
    power.  I think they are mostly imagined enemies, vastly
    outnumbered by idiots, assholes and karens.  I have never met
    any of the first 3 in real life, but the last 3 are everywhere. 
    OK, now George Soros or the Clintons will have me killed.

    *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones
    *Sent:* Sunday, May 31, 2020 1:28 PM
    *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
    <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd thing

    This is edging on violation of lent.

    But, this is actually a serious matter. Sometimes. These people
    who try to destroy a person's life and career over some little
    disagreements can be business dangerous. They will band
    together, and if you dont comply, they will target your
    customers and any public facing medium. Telling them you are a
    bigot running a bigot company. It can get out of hand fast.

    With only having recieved a single one at this point, its
    hopefully just a karen. But this stuff escalates quickly to
    outfits like antifa, and they do have the resources in manpower
    to escalate the campaign. They will dox everyone around your
    employee, when you dont comply, everyone around you (I'm fucked
    because of the afmug archive).

    I hate these idiots, they're the dirty side of trolling

    On Sun, May 31, 2020, 12:33 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
    <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

        I actually tried to find her employer. Coorporate HQ
        contacts were easy to find but not the local store where she
        works.  I wanted to tell the manager there that it appears
        they have a pro-looter employee...

        *From:*Lewis Bergman

        *Sent:*Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:23 AM

        *To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

        *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd thing

        Ugh. Karen's.

        On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 11:59 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com
        <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

            Yes she did.  And there was only a partial fragment of
            the thread.  I am guessing he said something similar to
            looters should be shot.

            I don’t find anything wrong with that.  Maybe not
            necessarily killed, but shot for sure.  Perhaps a rock
            salt load.

            *From:*Ken Hohhof

            *Sent:*Sunday, May 31, 2020 10:31 AM

            *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd thing

            From a personal, or business account?  Was Texas Karen
            so butthurt she spent the time to research where the
            troll worked, so she could speak to his manager?

            *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
            *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
            *Sent:* Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:20 AM
            *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
            <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd thing

            I finally screwed up my courage and clicked on it. Saw a
            fragment of a message where an employee of mine was
            trolling a karen.

            *From:*Ken Hohhof

            *Sent:*Sunday, May 31, 2020 10:08 AM

            *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd thing

            Did you select to manage your business page, and then
            click Inbox at the top left? OK, I’m doing it in a web
            browser, the procedure is probably a little different in
            the FB app.

            *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
            *ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
            *Sent:* Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:03 AM
            *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
            <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd thing

            Nope, no message on FB itself.

            *From:*ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>

            *Sent:*Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:57 AM

            *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd thing

            It was an email.  I have not even logged into my account
            to see if there was a PM.

            *From:*Ken Hohhof

            *Sent:*Sunday, May 31, 2020 9:39 AM

            *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

            *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd thing

            It may be a legitimate complaint, as in not a scam.

            But … and this is just my opinion and therefore worth
            what you paid for it … it seems like a very “Karen” sort
            of thing to complain to someone’s manager or employer
            about the views they express outside of work.  Unless
            the person is posting in an official capacity for the
            company, or is in a job that involves being the public
            face of a company.  Or the person is engaging in illegal
            acts online, like terrorist plots or something, in which
            case Karen should contact law enforcement, or a
            moderator for the social media platform, not the
            employer. Otherwise, disagree with the person online,
            don’t try to get them fired.  I disagree with the new
            normal that the appropriate punishment for all things
            that offend you is the person should lose their job,
            even if the offensive statement or act had nothing to do
            with their job.

            Unfortunately, Facebook will ding you for not responding
            promptly to the message. Just a minor ding though, I
            think you can safely ignore it, I assume it was a
            private message not a post to your page.  Or you could
            send a perfunctory reply like “thank you for your
            message” or “feedback about the job performance of our
            employees should be sent to our HR department at XXX” or
            anything so that Facebook sees that you replied.

            *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of
            *can...@believewireless.net
            <mailto:can...@believewireless.net>
            *Sent:* Sunday, May 31, 2020 10:10 AM
            *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com
            <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Odd thing

            What if you are that employee?

            On Sun, May 31, 2020 at 10:45 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com
            <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

                I wonder what this is.  She is from Texas.

                Not going to click on it.

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