We have an oddly high number of undocumented living here, not sure where theyre working. The house on the corner by me had enforcement a few years ago, they pulled 27 mattresses out of the 2 bedroom house, they said people were even sleeping in the crawl space. In the ambulance days we got called for a guy who had passed away in a 6 unit complex, police said when they got there there was a flood of people running out the back, mattresses everywhere. Apparently the landlord had an "arrangement" we have a weekly rental motel here, 5 to 6 to a room. And this is a small town in central illinois.
How do those poor people isolate if ones infected (contrary to a lot of my sides presentation of these people, they take care of one another more than we do at times). nobody can offer any temporary housing help, ICE will show up. They cant go to the hospital, ICE will show up. One staff infected effectively means a measurable percentage is infected. Re-opening wont have this problem, since they wont be able to come back, so infection management, testing, and tracing, will be a whole lot easier. Of course finding staff will be a bear, whose going to give up an extra 600 on top of their unemployment check to go do crummy work under the government thumb. with as cold as it is in those facilities, SCBA is a real option, assuming there is enough on the market to support one plant, let alone the industry. You have to wonder though with the industry being so impacted, how much of that meat will show up in the tracings as a vector On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 5:45 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > They need to address spread between workers inside the plants (on the line > and in common areas), but I also doubt the workers are going home to > spacious single family dwellings. I’d guess they live in somewhat crowded > conditions, and have family and neighbors who also work at the plant. So > it’s probably spreading in and out of the plant. Even if they were testing > all the workers, where would the infected ones go to isolate? All probably > solvable problems, but is anyone actually solving them? > > > > I saw something about India, that opening businesses back up could > actually help because people are more crowded at home than at work. > > > > > > *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 29, 2020 5:00 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Hope? > > > > I have in smaller ones. I can tell you that its one of the few times you > and I will agree on ICE activity, they need to stay the hell out of this. I > would put money down that tracing is going to show that this got that bad > in this industry because there is a ton of undocumented workforce, who was > too scared to seek medical treatment, had nowhere to isolate and > realistically had nothing to fall back on if they didnt push on through the > sickness. ICE needed to be completely blocked from almost all COVID related > enforcement action inside our borders. > > > > The facilities can be sanitized quickly, its in the nature of the > facilities to do so. Proximity is probably one of the biggest issues > in managing the risk, but its still manageable. The biggest issue is > clearing the workforce to come back, second biggest is actually getting > them to come back knowing ICE is waiting. i think looking at UV options in > the facilities is definitely something that needs to be done, but I dont > know what it does to the meat proteins > > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 4:48 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > You and I both know the conditions are very different at those > locations....have you ever been inside a meat packing place...I have > installing instrumentation gear....I have been in high tech manufacturing > plants as well...not the same. > > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020, 3:17 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > so factories being forced by government to make ventilators, tests and > masks good, food bad. Check > > > > On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 2:29 PM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > What a stupid move... > > Send him and his family to work in there. > > > https://www.indystar.com/story/news/health/2020/04/29/trump-order-on-meat-plants-shocks-indiana-workers/3042245001/ > > > > On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 9:34 AM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The last couple of weeks I have noticed a "weekend effect" where the > quantity drops on Sunday, then picks up again on Monday, then more on > Tuesday. > > Let's see what happens today. > > > > bp > > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > > On 4/28/2020 6:46 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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