I know, there seems to be an inordinate amount of time and money put into fake meat. As you say, growing up on a cattle, hog and dairy farm, fake meat is blasphemy. It just isn’t the same smoking/grilling chicken thighs and wrapping them in bacon when the chicken and bacon are made out of “plankton”. (I did my best to pull together the chicken thigh and Soylent Green threads… 😊
Regards, David Coudron From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:32 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan I thought they were making progress using robots to cut up the carcasses. But I just did a Google search, and there seem to be articles saying the robots are coming, and other articles saying they aren’t. Maybe I need to try that “plant meat”. Although that’s blasphemy, since many of my customers make their living raising pigs or cows. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of David Coudron Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 6:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan I think what he is referring to is that there is an over abundance of the product available to manufacture/distribute. I grew up as a farm kid and when we were young, every farmer had pigs, beef cattle (we called them feeder cattle) and dairy. Now, it has all moved to highly efficient, large operations. Most farmers can’t make any money as a small dairy or hog operation, and it is way too much work for what you can make. So everything consolidated into large, efficient operations. As many know, they have been dumping milk because they have to milk the cows, they cannot skip a rotation or the cows get infections (mastitis). Same with the large pig operations. They have pigs that are mature and have to moved out of the feed lots/buildings. This is due to the cost of continuing to feed them, and the need to make room for the smaller ones that are coming in regardless. So next week back where I grew up, they are starting to shoot the pigs, and they’ll have to bury them. So what is going to happen is that we will be killing pigs and burying them, but there will be no meat on the shelves because of the meat packing plant issue. I supposed it is more accurately called manufacturing rather than distribution, however, I might argue feed and water are the raw materials and the growing/finishing is the manufacturing, it is the long pole in the tent for timing. Meat packing is a pretty short time period and it is probably manufacturing, but only the tail end of it. It takes 6-9 months to grow a hog to slaughter weight, and 3-5 days to get it to your table. I am not commenting on whether his comments are right or wrong, but my wager is that in two weeks meat will be the next toilet paper if it isn’t already. As you said, I am not sure how well that will work to force them to stay open, but things are going to get very nuts of we have 3-4 weeks of most meat packing plants being closed. Of course most of the issue will be over-reaction like the toilet paper thing. Really sad to see farmers have to destroy finished hogs and stores with no meat in them. But, like the sheetrock shortage 20 years ago, the antifreeze shortage 15 years ago, the LCD screen shortage (whenever that was 😊) these highly consolidated, highly efficient, low margin supply chains don’t deal with disruption very well. Not really anyone’s fault, but tough to see. Regards, David Coudron david.coud...@advantenon.com<mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com> | Mobile: 612-991-7474 Advantenon, Inc. i...@advantenon.com<mailto:i...@advantenon.com> | 3500 Vicksburg Lane N, Suite 315, Plymouth, MN 55447 | www.advantenon.com<http://www.advantenon.com/> | Phone: 800-704-4720 | Local: 612-454-1545 [cid:image001.jpg@01D61D8C.02027230] From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan So I was out all day today actually doing work, and now that I’m home I see this: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-plans-to-order-meat-processing-plants-to-stay-open-during-coronavirus/ar-BB13kBRq I have no f’ing idea how that’s gonna play out. Also the article quotes him as saying there’s plenty of supply, it’s a distribution problem. I have to suspect the reporting got it wrong and he was talking about milk or green beans or potatoes. Because I would not refer to a slaughterhouse as “distribution”. On a semi related note, with all the ethanol plants shutting down because gas sales are down, why can I still not buy Purell? We should be swimming in ethanol. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 5:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan "long pig" is different than ordinary pig... On Tue, Apr 28, 2020, 4:26 PM James Howard <ja...@litewire.net<mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> wrote: Since when have pigs not been people? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 2:57 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan I’m waiting for someone to start a Soylent Green conspiracy theory about why there are thousands of infections at meat packing plants but we don’t hear about lots of deaths. Chuck is safe, though. His Vienna Sausages are new old stock. Made the old fashioned way, from snouts and feet and tails and everything but the squeal. But at least they’re not people! From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 1:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan when my dad was in korea during vietnam, he didnt question the source of the "beef". but then again, he also drank booze that was made in a pit in the ground that you had to strain the squiggly live things out of. So im pretty sure a dog or cat with the kimchi wasnt any isue On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 12:54 PM Steven Kenney <st...@wavedirect.org<mailto:st...@wavedirect.org>> wrote: I've seen some things in China that would scar you for life what they do to dogs/cats/animals. I guess when you are hungry you'll do anything. Used to think it was cliche or just a joke about over there. Its not. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) ________________________________ From: "James Howard" <ja...@litewire.net<mailto:ja...@litewire.net>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 12:07:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] What Really Happened in Wuhan So you’re saying the cat should have been pictured sitting in a lunch box? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com<mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>] On Behalf Of Steven Kenney Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:53 AM To: af <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan I don't think they keep cats as pets...... -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) ________________________________ From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com<mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 10:59:59 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What Really Happened in Wuhan and Facebook will publish a thousand variations. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 4/28/2020 7:47 AM, Steve Jones wrote: google will remove this truth from the internet On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 9:39 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote: Yes! 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