Governor of Texas shuttered every bar and restaurant for a few weeks. Take it and drive through only.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 3:33 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > The worse it gets, the better behaved we will be. > > *From:* castarritt . > *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 2:15 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies > > Here is the long term plan: > > > https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-NPI-modelling-16-03-2020.pdf > > > TLDR: > > Option 1: Do nothing, and 4+ million Americans die in a few months as the > healthcare system collapses. > > Option 2: Do some quarantining and social distancing to flatten the curve, > and maybe a million Americans die. > > Option 3: Shut down everything to stop the spread. Keep everything shut > down for ~18 months until everyone is vaccinated. > > It looks like we are headed for Option 3 right now. With any luck, we > might develop some effective treatments for the virus that would lessen the > death toll of switching to Option 2. Also, they have developed an antibody > test now, and anyone who tests positive for the antibodies will be safe > from the virus, and unable to spread it to others, so at least those people > will be able to go back to work. > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:50 PM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Has anybody laid out what the long term plan is? >> >> We can't keep everybody at home forever and we can't stop all >> international trade and travel so sooner or later the virus has to run it's >> course, or so it seems to me. >> >> I know we're trying to slow down the spread so we don't overwhelm the >> hospital capacity and that's great. Are we going to somehow reduce social >> isolation over time in a controlled way, or will social isolation end >> organically as people get sick of staying home? >> >> >> On 3/19/2020 3:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote: >> >> I dont know how many times i need to point out this logic >> >> The US is undercounted, thats a given. undercounting does not equate >> hidden numbers of magnitude >> >> Heres the logic thats completely being ignored >> >> The deaths associated with COVID19 that werent tested would have been >> attributed to flu >> There has been no reported increase in flu deaths per the anticipated >> rates this year >> >> The testing that has been done is very promising. Yesterdays counts of >> those tested were running around 8 percent positive. This does NOT equate >> to 8 percent of the population. The "administration bad, nobody can just go >> get a test for curiousity" argument further strengthens this as a promising >> number. The ONLY people being tested for the most part, are those in the >> very high probability category. So of those assumed to be infected, only 8 >> percent of them actually are. >> >> We still havent hit globally the number of infections and deaths from the >> swine flu in the US alone. let me reiterate this GLOBALLY TODAY, there are >> less sick and dead, than from swine flu in the US ALONE. The current >> response is such that has never been seen in the history of the planet. >> >> Inmates are an issue, with a guard and an inmate at rikers island >> infected now, we have a national issue. if we dump the prisons, not only do >> we have a ton of criminals on the street, we have hundreds of thousands of >> indigent on the streets in the middle of a pandemic. (maybe not having >> locked up such a percentage of the population in the first place is a whole >> other OT rant). Iran dumped 70k inmates on the streets, i cant imagine that >> having helped their situation. >> >> Morons on spring break making a point of interacting even more than they >> normally would have is illogical enough to eliminate any logic. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I don't know that Russia's numbers are terribly inaccurate... it's >>> really just starting to spread there now, and the numbers aren't far off >>> what other countries reported early on, and the cases they have reported >>> are almost all in Moscow. They also have much tighter border controls than >>> most of the world, and they're going on lockdown earlier into the outbreak >>> than most countries did... so it's not unbelievable that they'd have low >>> numbers at this point. >>> >>> But who knows what's really going on in some of these countries... it >>> certainly wouldn't surprise me if China is lying about their numbers, it >>> all depends on what they think is in their best interests at this point, >>> and I don't trust any information from or about North Korea, no matter what >>> the source is, but the high level of government control over everything in >>> North Korea could certainly give them an advantage in this situation. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:42 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Russia, India, Mexico. I heard something on >>>> NPR this morning about mass graves in Iran. It may be years (or never) >>>> before we understand the scope of this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/19/2020 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> >>>> I still believe North Korea has a huge problem that they are covering >>>> up. Especially in the labor camps. Communal sleeping barns etc. No >>>> sanitation facilities. >>>> >>>> *From:* Bill Prince >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:34 PM >>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies >>>> >>>> >>>> Only if they attribute it properly. There is plenty of data to indicate >>>> that deaths have been incorrectly attributed, >>>> >>>> bp >>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/19/2020 11:09 AM, James Howard wrote: >>>> >>>> the death count is the death count >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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