Has anybody laid out what the long term plan is?
We can't keep everybody at home forever and we can't stop all
international trade and travel so sooner or later the virus has to run
it's course, or so it seems to me.
I know we're trying to slow down the spread so we don't overwhelm the
hospital capacity and that's great. Are we going to somehow reduce
social isolation over time in a controlled way, or will social isolation
end organically as people get sick of staying home?
On 3/19/2020 3:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
I dont know how many times i need to point out this logic
The US is undercounted, thats a given. undercounting does not equate
hidden numbers of magnitude
Heres the logic thats completely being ignored
The deaths associated with COVID19 that werent tested would have been
attributed to flu
There has been no reported increase in flu deaths per the anticipated
rates this year
The testing that has been done is very promising. Yesterdays counts of
those tested were running around 8 percent positive. This does NOT
equate to 8 percent of the population. The "administration bad, nobody
can just go get a test for curiousity" argument further strengthens
this as a promising number. The ONLY people being tested for the most
part, are those in the very high probability category. So of those
assumed to be infected, only 8 percent of them actually are.
We still havent hit globally the number of infections and deaths from
the swine flu in the US alone. let me reiterate this GLOBALLY TODAY,
there are less sick and dead, than from swine flu in the US ALONE. The
current response is such that has never been seen in the history of
the planet.
Inmates are an issue, with a guard and an inmate at rikers island
infected now, we have a national issue. if we dump the prisons, not
only do we have a ton of criminals on the street, we have hundreds of
thousands of indigent on the streets in the middle of a pandemic.
(maybe not having locked up such a percentage of the population in the
first place is a whole other OT rant). Iran dumped 70k inmates on the
streets, i cant imagine that having helped their situation.
Morons on spring break making a point of interacting even more than
they normally would have is illogical enough to eliminate any logic.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com
<mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I don't know that Russia's numbers are terribly inaccurate... it's
really just starting to spread there now, and the numbers aren't
far off what other countries reported early on, and the cases they
have reported are almost all in Moscow. They also have much
tighter border controls than most of the world, and they're going
on lockdown earlier into the outbreak than most countries did...
so it's not unbelievable that they'd have low numbers at this point.
But who knows what's really going on in some of these countries...
it certainly wouldn't surprise me if China is lying about their
numbers, it all depends on what they think is in their best
interests at this point, and I don't trust any information from or
about North Korea, no matter what the source is, but the high
level of government control over everything in North Korea could
certainly give them an advantage in this situation.
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:42 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
North Korea, Iraq, Iran, Russia, India, Mexico. I heard
something on NPR this morning about mass graves in Iran. It
may be years (or never) before we understand the scope of this.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/19/2020 11:37 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I still believe North Korea has a huge problem that they are
covering up. Especially in the labor camps. Communal
sleeping barns etc. No sanitation facilities.
*From:* Bill Prince
*Sent:* Thursday, March 19, 2020 12:34 PM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: virus anomalies
Only if they attribute it properly. There is plenty of data
to indicate that deaths have been incorrectly attributed,
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/19/2020 11:09 AM, James Howard wrote:
the death count is the death count
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