Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow

[Bill Prince]

Orwell was a pro.

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On 3/17/2020 4:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

I’ve missed the last few WISPAmericas, but it felt to me like using the name Animal Farm was more to honor the history than to capitalize on the name as advertising.  They could have called it something else, one of the “tracks”, but it made attendees who used to go to Animal Farm in spring feel good that it wasn’t totally gone and forgotten.  Kind of a lifetime achievement aware.

 

I say that not knowing anything about the arrangement between Chuck and WISPA, that’s just the vibe I got when I went to the shows.

 

Does George Orwell also get a quid or a quo?

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 5:07 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow

 

There is a bit more to it, but this is not the space to get into details.  As long as Forrest is involved he had my proxy to proceed.

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On Mar 17, 2020, at 3:51 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com> wrote:



I know that in the past it was done with permission.

 

I also know for a 100% fact that at least one of the Quids (or is it the Quo) is still being honored.

 

I suspect this is more of a situation that WISPA continued on after Chuck quit being involved and no one had a discussion about how to go forward.

 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 3:02 PM can...@believewireless.net <p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

I was honestly kind of shocked to see an Animal Farm reference not coming from Chuck. I assumed it was done with permission.

 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 4:08 PM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:

Now is not the time.  Staff is still dealing with the aftermath of Dallas.   Give it some time.

 

Mark

On Mar 17, 2020, at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:

 

You should attend more of the show, Chuck!

 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 2:43 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

Yeah, that was the main value in doing the show.

I didn’t realize WispAmerica continued using the name after I quit supporting them.

 

Perhaps I need to be having this discussion with them. 

 

There were supposed to be certain quid pro quos...

 

 

 

From: Ken Hohhof

Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 11:30 AM

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow

 

One of the highlights … perhaps THE highlight … of Animal Farm was getting to throw questions at actual product managers and developers from Motorola (now Cambium).

 

Sort of like “Question Time” in the UK Parliament.  Is that the one where they ask incredibly rude questions of the Prime Minister, or is that something else?

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis via AF
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 12:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: Matt Mangriotis <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow

 

Chuck – In all seriousness, we don’t mean to offend, knock off or breach any kind of trust...

 

This is the WISPAmerica Animal Farm session (a direct descendant of yours and Jaime’s creation).

 

Everyone is welcome. If you’ve not attended the last couple of years, I always give you credit during my introduction.

 

Matt

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 11:53 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow

 

I got a big angry lawyer letter for sharing a Moto/Cambium firmware link.  We should start a club :)

 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

 

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 10:51 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

It was first held at the Airport Hilton, it was called AnimalFarm and that
suggestion came from Jaime.  It was later held at several other venues.  It
was only the latter days where it was held at the fairpark.

Motorola expressly and specifically disavowed any connection with AnimalFarm
but they did send people.  I tried to get Mot to sponsor a users group
meeting during the Tucson channel partner meetings and Mot said legally
there were too many problems.

So, I took it upon myself to rent the conference room and invite everyone to
come.  We were the pigs taking over the farm from the farmer.  Thus
AnimalFarm.  And thus trademarked by WB Manufacturing as it was our trade
show and our main means of marketing each year.

But not the first time I have been knocked off by Mot and its descendants...
At least WispAmerica asked permission...

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Mangriotis via AF
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:10 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Cc: Matt Mangriotis
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Webinar tomorrow

Someone??? It's me, Chuck!

We've called it Animal Farm since it was held at the Utah State Fairpark...
you used to join us and speak about the history, etc. I miss that.

In any case, we've virtualized it this year. As such, we'll record it and
post it to our forum.

If you'd like to attend, please visit our website to see what we're doing to
virualize the WISPAmerica experience (and sign up to attend):
https://www.cambiumnetworks.com/wispamerica2020/

Thanks!
Matt



-----Original Message-----
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2020 8:49 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Webinar tomorrow

Really, someone is using my AnimalFarm trademark without permission?

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> On Mar 17, 2020, at 2:32 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account)
> <li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
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> I just registered for the cambium "Animal Farm" webinar, however it's at 8
> central which is 7am my time.
>
> Does anyone know if they record these for later playback?   I'm not
> particularly thrilled about getting up that early, considering I've been
> on the "go to bed at 4am" schedule recently.
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