Shooting through multiple turbines can be problematic because the blades can be 
offset so that one set of blades fills in the gaps from the next, like flower 
petals.  Also they turn to face into the wind and sometimes they stop them due 
to too much or too little wind or to avoid shadow flicker or because the price 
of electricity is too low.  So there are a lot of scenarios, and it’s not 
really possible to verify everything at installation time.

 

I guess another reason to use a simulation that perhaps can take all this into 
account.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Saturday, February 29, 2020 9:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] freznel impact calculator

 

If the width of the blade where it intercepts the LOS is as wide as the first 
fresnel zone I would expect big problems.

But if you just have blade tips encroaching on the upper number fresnel zones 
or a portion of the first fresnel zone I don’t think it would be a problem.  

 

From: Steve Jones 

Sent: Friday, February 28, 2020 5:42 PM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: [AFMUG] freznel impact calculator

 

I have a 3 link path i need to turn up in 11ghz. we drove the path yesterday. 2 
legs are golden. one however is problematic, ive got two wind turbines that are 
in or just outside the fresnel. If it were one, id probably be inclined to risk 
the impact if there was just one turbine, but two is iffy without some good 
maths to support it. 

The path is 5.5 miles

the first turbine is 3.64 mile

the second is about 4.69 miles

Fresnel is about 25' radius at that distance max if the calculator is right

the first turbine is maybe 100' from boresite

the second is probably 150'

These arent our normal turbines, these the the bad motherfucker turbines, so 
the blades are like a million feet long, actually IIRC theyre 224' on something 
like a 400' pedestal.

 

I need to pull the specs again on those and get better than google earth GPS 
coordinates on the potential end points, and some better actual heights 

 

that brings be to the question, how do i calculate a partial fresnel 
obstruction with a radius like the blade pattern.

 

I figure boresite view with a 50' circle would give me worst case fresnel, then 
i just draw the arc of the turbine path into that as an obtruction for each 
maybe just shade the polygon it create as a complete obstruction.

 

So once i have that info, what tool can i put it into to calculate the impact? 
everything we use just has an obstruction height. Would i be able to just take 
the distance from edge of fresnel into the furthest point of the polygon? Would 
I need to calculate more loss than that?

 

Im planning on sticking a 5ghz link up anyway pending licensing, so i assume i 
can just extrapolate the loss from that

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