we started using this apex 9 stuff on residential, I think its shireen
rebranded, i dont know. We have recently started taking the risk of using
it on POPs instead of the BBDGE simply for cost savings, we will probably
come to regret it when we are pulling it all out and putting BBDGE back in
like we did with the BBDNE. To concept seems solid wit the embedded tape,
but it also makes me wonder if it absorbs the water and when it freezes it
will damage the copper.

On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 8:23 AM <g...@shireeninc.com> wrote:

> If I can assist anyone with any concerns, please feel free to ask
>
> g...@shireeninc.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 9:08 AM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
>
> > This is a little off the subject but more to do with water migration.
> >
> > Decades of working with coaxial cable on towers has taught me that a
> small
> cut out of the jacket at the bottom of a drop loop before entering a
> shelter
> or cabinet goes a long way to preventing water migration into connectors.
>
> I put a new connector on and do that on runs that have gotten water in
> them.
> Just hate to do it on a good run but its a good point.  Always leave a
> generous service loop now days to make this possible.
>
>
> >
> > Water is a lot like electricity... Always seeking the path of least
> resistance.
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 8:06 PM Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I agree. We've been using the shireen stuff on towers for awhile. If
> there's a bad enough leak, it will eventually make it to the bottom, but
> it's definitely better than nothing.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jan 28, 2020, 4:51 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We use the Shireen stuff.  I'd rate the dry gel tape as good not great.
> >>> It's certainly better than the Belden we used to use, which has a
> >>> cellophane like wrap that seems to guide the water all the way to
> >>> the RJ45 at the bottom.
> >>>
> >>> The tape gets soggy, it doesn't turn into water blocking gel like in
> >>> a gel filled cable.  I'm not sure how I feel about some soggy tape
> >>> inside the cable 100 feet up, but I don't think I've experienced
> >>> drops of water coming out the bottom of any of the Shireen cable.
> >>> You absolutely do want to tape or otherwise weatherproof the ends of
> >>> any spare cables though, or they will absorb water and you'll have
> >>> to cut off several feet if you ever want to terminate and use them.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 4:16 PM
> >>> To: af@af.afmug.com
> >>> Subject: [AFMUG] Cat5 Water Blocking Dry Tape
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone used shielded cat5 up tower with water blocking dry tape?
> >>> Does it work very well in case of water intrusion?
> >>>
> >>> Once in rare while we will get a run with water in it.  I always
> >>> think when it happens someone did something wrong on install but a
> >>> real pain when it happens.
> >>>
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