Wineguard and Channel Master are the good name brands to go with. As chuck
mentioned there are very few channels on the lowest part of the VHF band
(channels 1-6) and a lot of that reason is because they required a really
big cutback in power over using the higher channels when they transitioned
to digital. With the recent channel repack, many stations have again moved
channels. As I recall the highest channel used now is 38 or something like
that. The bowtie flat panel flyswatter type antennas are what I would go
with. Much smaller and easier to deal with inside the attic and a wider
beamwidth. Antennas direct appears to have some decent looking units on
Amazon. Not sure if you have more than one direction you want to scan for
channels but if you do they have units that have two panels of bowties on a
hinge so you can have panels pointed in two separate directions without the
need to have a rotor. Make sure to do a new scan for channels. That is
actually a good reminder for everyone if they haven't recently.


Thank you,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com


-----Original Message-----
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 10:23 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: OTA Antennas again

What kind of bandwidth do you need from the lowest to the highest channel?

I would assume all desired channels are in the UHF band.
Yagi's are great for a channel or three, but they are inherently narrow 
band.

A wide band log perodic will give you the most signal but do you really need

that much signal?

I recently purchased a dipole in front of a reflector from Home Depot and I 
actually have too much signal.
I am only 5 miles away ( and one mile below) the majority of the 
transmitters, but I have tons of signal.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/RCA-Attic-Outdoor-Compact-Design-HDTV-Antenna-AN
T705E/303087505

BTW, I left off the VHF dipole during assembly on purpose.  Very few areas 
have actual VHF tv transmitters any more.

-----Original Message----- 
From: Nate Burke
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 7:37 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: OTA Antennas again

I know it's been brought up in the past, but I'm too lazy to go look
through the archives.

What good OTA Antennas are out there now?  Is channel master still the
gold standard?  Looking to mount inside an attic.  35 miles to the
transmitter across water, and through a couple sand dunes and a forest
(NW Indiana across lake Michigan to Chicago)

Looks like there are square and yagi antennas.  The Yagi antennas say
'line of sight'  Does that really mean LOS like we think of LOS, or LOS
as in it has to be aimed at the receiver?

Has to go in the attic because my mom says 'anything that goes on the
roof will leak', but she's ready to dump Comcast because they keep
raising her price and taking away her channels (last straw was them
pulling TCM from her package).  I was at least smart enough to put in a
conduit from the attic to the basement when they built the house.  Yagi
might be hard to aim in the attic.  Would it work just the same on a
post in the yard, or does the extra 15' of height to the attic really help.

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