New stuff I try to use M6, but I have lots of telco racks and telco stuff is 
all 12-24 (probably even to this day).

 

I’m sure there’s some 10-32 and M5 screws around also, but being an old telco 
industry guy, I consider those too wimpy.  I guess I accept the 10-32 stuff as 
legacy IT rack standard just like 12-24 is legacy telco rack standard.  
Anything I do metric is new, so M5 just doesn’t make sense.  Luckily most new 
stuff has the square holes so I just need a bag of M6 cage nuts.  Now if I 
could just find my tool for inserting and extracting cage nuts.

 

What I hate is stripping the threads in an old rack because I think it’s one 
size and it’s another.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 6:18 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

 

ug… no wonder this ends up aggravating me on a regular basis.  I think we 
settled on 12-24 for the majority of the equipment we have.

 

Mark





On Jan 28, 2020, at 6:06 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com> > wrote:

 

There are actually four standards:

 

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Even better, the *two* active standards (IEC_60927-3-100 and IEA/ECA-310) each 
have a preferred thread sizes.   The IEC standard prefers M6x1, and the IEA/ECA 
standard prefers M5.

 

I'm assuming that you're talking about either a M5 or a M6 screw, not a 
non-metric 10-32 or 12-24.

 

 

 

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 8:53 AM Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net 
<mailto:m...@amplex.net> > wrote:

Not a big concern for us.   If you get rid of the handles please leave a tapped 
hole in the center of the 1U bracket that matches the common rack screw (there 
are two standards - pick one) to use as a jack screw if the unit is being 
stubborn coming out of the rack.

 

Mark





On Jan 28, 2020, at 9:13 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com 
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

 

I can live without handles.

 

Not really a big deal unless it’s a super long, heavy server, and those 
typically go in 4 post racks or cabinets anyway with rear access.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Jason Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2020 1:24 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RackMount Devices - Handles or No Handles

 

Make keyholes for handles?  If you happen to need them slide them on. 
Removeable. Keep 1 set in the go bag. 

 

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 10:09 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) 
<li...@packetflux.com <mailto:li...@packetflux.com> > wrote:

I'm wondering if anyone has strong opinions about handles on rackmount devices.

 

I'm in the process of switching the enclosure manufacturer on the RackInjector 
and in the process making some design changes that should make things better 
for both us and our customers.  I don't want to share too much just in case 
this doesn't work out - and no, this isn't a change to hot-swappable cards.

 

With the design we're working on, the handles we have on the front of the 
existing enclosure aren't very easy to implement in the new design.   So I'm 
thinking about just dropping them to save the hassle/pain/shipping 
issues/cost/etc/etc/etc.

 

My personal experience has been that although handles on enclosures are nice 
when removing a device from a rack, they are by no means necessary.   On 
occasion, I've also had handles become a liability instead of a help.   But on 
the other hand, when a device gets stuck in a rack (typically due to 
neighboring devices), it is nice to have them to add leverage when removing the 
enclosure.

 

I'm wondering what everyone else's thoughts on this are...

 

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