Agreed all around.
As far as the FCC is concerned about battery backup for an ONT if
offered at the time of sale with VoIP... it is the customer
responsibility to maintain the batteries. If I was a FTTH provider I'd
probably offer a battery maintenance plan or just do it but I could see
other providers not doing it.
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Adam Moffett wrote on 11/8/19 13:21:
The code I read for this area (and yours may differ of course) didn't
specifically say a POTS line was required. It said any electronics
required for the alarm have to be protected from power failures for
some certain number of hours (4 maybe? 8?). A copper POTS line meets
that requirement with no caveats. Cellular built into the alarm panel
also naturally would.
I think the catch with fiber is who's responsible for battery backup
on the ONT? You can't trust the customer to do it because they often
can't or won't monitor it. The provider *can* have an ONT with a
battery backup, and they *can* monitor it. But are they doing that?
As long as someone is addressing all that, then it's not specifically
a code issue....at least not in this locality.
With that said, the reason I don't want to make any promises about
alarms doesn't really have to do with code, it's just that sometimes
you get a 1980's (or older) system and it seems like it doesn't want
to work when it's on an ATA no matter what I do. In this particular
case, the burglar alarm panel works fine, but there's a panic button
in the building which also calls the alarm company. They say the
alarm company gets a call when you push the panic button, but the
signals it sends are "garbled". I don't want to deal with that stuff,
but I was giving it the ol' college try. The person on site said
something about a line "stealer" or "isolator" switch and it tickled
dusty memories. It's probably nothing to do with anything. I've
moved on.
-Adam
On 11/8/2019 12:20 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
So, if you only have FTTH with an ONT and the backbone on the
ONT/PON is ethernet on it and the dial tone is on SIP, closed
network high quality SIP but still SIP, G.711 coding is this POTS?
Is this VOIP?
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*Sent:* Friday, November 8, 2019 10:14 AM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question
Tell them it is required by fire code to be on a POTS line not a VoIP
line. While that isn't true everywhere, in many places it is (just
like emergency elevator phones).
You may look into getting a resale account with the phone company for
POTS lines so you can bundle that in.
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Adam Moffett wrote on 11/8/19 08:52:
I had one of those "my antique alarm system doesn't work on your
ATA, and I know you said get a POTS line for the alarm but I ignored
you" calls.
Was trying to troubleshoot that. Nothing major.
On 11/7/2019 5:26 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
What are you trying to accomplish? My Alarm panel has this built
in if you wire the POTS line to it before anything else.
On 11/7/2019 4:25 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
From the verbal description I got, it sounds more like the
"Priority line grabber" about 1/3 of the way down this page:
http://www.sandman.com/lineshar.html
I didn't realize how many varieties of such a thing there might
be.....I guess I'll have to get eyes on it.
On 11/7/2019 5:18 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I thought maybe he was talking about a PLAR, but you're probably
right.
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Subject: [AFMUG] Fw: Old phone guy question
Line Exclusion device. I found a few online. I remember putting
one on the
hall phone at a school. It was on one of the main lines of the
school. The
kids could use the hall phone unless someone in the office was
using that
line. Saved them from buying another line.
-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 3:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Old phone guy question
Oh, geeze.... I remember how they worked.... line isolator?
Exclusion something. Privacy adapter. Something like that.
Line excluder? Exclusion device. Automatic exclusion.
Seems like the word exclusion was in there. Google it and you
will probably
find one.
There are also line sharing devices that would block another line
if a fax
was in use.
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To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Old phone guy question
What's the proper term for a device that will take over a phone
line if the
phone connected to it picks up? Like the device they use to put
an elevator
emergency phone onto the fax line.
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