Every indoor generator I've ever seen has been in a separate, ventilated room from the telecom equipment.  I'd also rig up an exhaust fan as well if the generator is running.  Even better would be to put it in a separate building if you are building from scratch.

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Chuck McCown wrote on 9/9/19 19:03:
That’s horrible.  We always had the generators in a separate room.  One end of the shelter was walled off just for the generator. But good point, sometimes you get stranded on mountaintops.  I have had carbon monoxide poisoning twice and did not notice it coming on. Obviously I was lucky both times.
I guess a good CO detector would be a must.
*From:* Robert
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*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] generator suggestions
Please don't put it in an area that any personnel are likely to take shelter in.   We lost two good radio techs out this way last year due to that.  Was supposed to be safe for them.  Killed them before they could drink 1/2 cup of coffee...

On 9/9/19 4:58 PM, Daniel White wrote:
The Long Lines sites I've visited in Colorado at that altitude had diesel generators but they were also not off-grid.  I know the comm site at Almagre Mountain was a huge remediation issue with the diesel tanks there.

Check out the Cummins Onan 5.5HGJAE-2144.  Since it is designed for RV type applications it has a dedicated exhaust port.

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Sean Heskett wrote on 9/9/19 16:13:
Hello fellow borg members,
We will be building an off grid (solar) tower site at 10,000 feet MSL that receives over 500 inches of snow and has a typical settled snow depth of 10 feet. (I know, we are crazy, but people need internet lol ;) Because of the deep snow it will be necessary to put the generator inside the telecom shelter that we are building, otherwise it would get buried.  It also needs to be propane because at that altitude and temp diesel fuel will gel up and refuse to start. At other sites we have typically used a Generac Ecogen 15kW propane generator.  Everyone I talk to says "you can't put a generator indoors" but in this case I have to, and this isn't living space this is a telecom shelter on the top of a mountain.  The Ecogen seems un-good for this application because it doesn't seem to have one small exhaust port, it's the whole side of the unit.
So i'm looking for a propane generator that is:
1. 5kW or bigger
2.  has 2 wire start (it needs to be smart enough to handle the choke and throttle etc. to start when i close a relay)
3. can be installed inside the shelter
4. is super reliable because i don't want to visit this site in the winter
any ideas??
Thanks,
sean





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