I am sure there will be continual advancements in solar panel efficiencies and 
lowering of cost per watt.  Solar is practical for powering most things.  

We will always need to fire up the coal, oil, natural gas, nuclear, or hydro 
for smelting aluminum etc.  

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2019 11:00 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

Their must have been some other assumptions.  Total usage is something like 
10tw and average wind energy available under 100m is somewhere around 250tw.  
Obviously you could never capture all that energy.   

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:53 AM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:

  I read an article once which claimed that to satisfy worldwide electric 
demand via wind alone would require extracting 100% of the energy from the 
wind.  That is to say, it would require stopping the wind. 

  -Adam


  On 8/22/2019 5:25 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

    I am unschooled in this, but since windmills extract energy from wind, they 
would actually DECREASE wind locally. Might be pretty hard to measure though.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 8/22/2019 2:18 PM, Carl Peterson wrote:

      I believe that mountain lions go downwind to stalk their prey. Is there 
any chance that the increased wind caused by the windmills has led to an influx 
of mountain lions because their prey is easier to stalk? Somebody should look 
into this.


      On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:08 PM Carl Peterson 
<[email protected]> wrote:

        Thats completely bogus.  Windmills don't attract cats.  The wind from 
the windmills blows away the smell of predators which causes the mice and birds 
to come out.  Its the mice and birds that attract the cats.  

        On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 4:04 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:

          Well I hear that windmills attract cats.

          Sent from my iPhone

          > On Aug 22, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> 
wrote:
          > 
          > Based upon what I've read, the danger to birds is way, way 
overstated. Probably at least an order of magnitude. Cats are far more 
dangerous to birds.
          > 
          > 
          > bp
          > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
          > 
          >> On 8/22/2019 1:10 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
          >> You are diving down on a mouse that was disturbed by the tip 
vortex off a 300mph passing blade tip and swap...   300mph _next_ blade tip 
knocks you into oblivion...
          >> 
          >>> On 08/22/2019 01:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
          >>> Well, that explains the bats, but what about the raptors? Do they 
just die from disgust because they think it's an eyesore?
          >>> 
          >>> On Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 6:53 PM Chuck McCown <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
          >>> 
          >>>     There is a low pressure zone on the lee side of the blade that
          >>>     apparently is
          >>>     dramatic enough of a pressure change to cause some kind of 
lung
          >>>     damage to
          >>>     bats.
          >>> 
          >>>     -----Original Message-----
          >>>     From: Robert Andrews
          >>>     Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2019 5:27 PM
          >>>     To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
          >>>     Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity
          >>> 
          >>>     That was back in 2012, and the blades were 75 Meters now 
blades are
          >>>     exceeding 104 Meters
          >>> 
          >>>     On 08/21/2019 04:23 PM, Robert Andrews wrote:
          >>>      > Ummm   blade tip speed is still pretty darn high. Just 
because
          >>>     it looks
          >>>      > slow doesn't mean that it is...  180Mph...
          >>>      >
          >>>      >
          >>> 
https://gizmodo.com/the-worlds-biggest-wind-turbine-blades-are-so-long-thei-5930272
          >>>      >
          >>>      > On 08/21/2019 04:13 PM, Bill Prince wrote:
          >>>      >> Not the new giant ones. They move very slowly & the birds 
& bats
          >>>     just fly
          >>>      >> around them.
          >>>      >>
          >>>      >>
          >>>      >> bp
          >>>      >> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
          >>>      >>
          >>>      >> On 8/21/2019 3:11 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
          >>>      >>> Wind kills bats and raptors and migratory waterfowl
          >>>      >>
          >>>      >
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