Stampless tobacco is either counterfeit or sold through places like Indian
reservations.  Indian Reservations and the big tobacco giants love each
other.  The reservations will sell to the small gas stations with stampless
product or counterfeited stamps.  Usually the largest part of the price of
cigarettes comes in the form of taxes.

I used to sell about 12-14k cartons a month.  The Indian Reservations
contacted me multiple times to get truckloads of unstamped Philip Morris or
RJ Reynolds product.

On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 10:16 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, the hydropnics is expensive, but the real killer is the electricity.
> If youre growing high potency niche strains, you need to control the entire
> environment. I think cali is a 6 plant state.
> There is still black market booze, huge numbers of black market tobacco
> products. Taxes and regulations are always going to produce black markets.
> Illionois just went to tobacco 21 and jacked taxes. Stampless tobacco is
> all over the place now. I dont even know where they get these, packaging
> looks legit, so maybe they just truck ot from manufacturers
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 7:09 AM Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> wrote:
>
>> You can grow your own in California can't you?  Is it very hard or
>> expensive to do so?
>>
>> Bill Prince wrote:
>> >
>> > The black market still exists because they made the taxes so high.
>> >
>> > The cannabis coming from south of the border does not have the same
>> > (or any) quality/potency controls.
>> >
>> > Yes. They are worried about losing revenue.
>> >
>> > What they don't understand (yet) is if they lower the duty/taxes on
>> > cannabis, the legal volume will go up and make more revenue.
>> >
>> > bp
>> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>> >
>> > On 8/18/2019 5:14 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>> >> News article about some pot mixed with peppers being intercepted in
>> >> San Diego.
>> >> Officials said:
>> >>
>> >>     Not only did they prevent the drugs from reaching our community,
>> >>     they also prevented millions of dollars of potential profit from
>> >>     making it into the hands of a transnational criminal organization."
>> >>
>> >> The first half of that does not make any sense to me because
>> >> California now has a vested interest in these so called “drugs” from
>> >> reaching the community via official channels.
>> >> The second half seems like it is more about the state losing the
>> profit?
>> >> How is it worth the risk to import pot into a state that has
>> >> recreational pot?  Is there a market for black market pot?
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
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