Sas is suppposed to eliminate the rogue ubnt gear. Im assuming there is recourse if there is an illegal operator, but as far as i know, that path is not clearly defined
On Wed, Aug 21, 2019, 8:43 AM Paul McCall <[email protected]> wrote: > Great feedback everyone. Kinda what I figured though. No special sauce > added on the MU-Mimo part of the 450 APs that overcome tree penetration > issues. We have had good luck with the 320s for the most part, but they > are only ¾ baked as a system , and far from being future proof, capacity > wise. > > > > The 3.65 band in general makes they choice a bit tentative. Meaning you > can spend a bunch of money on LTE gear and have a $ 150 UBNT device start > interfering with you, with little recourse. Ouch. No 2.5ghz band > available in my area. > > > > And, In Florida our ROI sheet has to account for more equipment damage > that most, so its not an easy call. > > > > Paul > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of * Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2019 11:36 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65 > > > > We are at decision time on what to do with the 320/ubnt 3ghz, same boat on > decisions. LTE is a brand new horse to us, but the historic issues of > interference frighten my more than walking in on my wife with another man > when she should be doing laundry, I need clean work shirts. We had done > some base testing with baicells and we considering the trigger pull, but we > have the 450 out, and its performed as well or better than expected, this > is not i or m but it was considered, by us to be a drop in replacement for > the wimax, and ePMP to pick up the LOS UBNT junk. > > Ive been trying to find out what SAS is actually doing real world, but I > dont know that the trial operators are allowed to speak of it without > ending up in a lake with concrete shoes. If SAS solves all the worlds woes > regarding interference, its a cost no brainer to deploy the crap out of > baicells, take the range hit, and fill the gaps with microcells where > required. > > but, 450, being the horse it is, works, and works well, even in the > interference we have. Its drop in for us on the wimax because we were very > careful on EIRP to not push our luck. we may take a 1x hit here and there, > but offloading the LOS customers to EPMP will make up for that. May still > require the occasional non standard solution for the customers that just > dont work on anything other than the wimax, solely because it connected at > such a crummy level. We should have addressed them historically anyway > though. > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 10:17 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > Probably not applicable to PMP320, but with the Purewave basestations, I’m > convinced many operators were setting them to max xmt power ignoring FCC > limits on EIRP. That of course didn’t help upstream, and the CPE was > fairly anemic. But downstream, I think that was part of the “magic”. > > > > I think with CBRS there is the potential of increased EIRP over what we > are allowed under Part 90. Given the huge power consumption of the 3.6 GHz > PMP450m, I have to suspect it has the power amps to take advantage of > higher EIRP, not sure about the regular 450 AP. If I remember correctly > though, it doesn’t have as many antenna beams as the 5 GHz 450m. And given > the size, weight and power consumption, we have sites I doubt we could > deploy 4 sectors. > > > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Colin Stanners > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2019 9:50 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65 > > > > I agree on the PMP320's impressive tree penetration. We moved some sites > from PMP320 to PMP450... with the added gain of the PMP450 reflector dish > (8+11dBi vs the PMP320's 14dBi) I expected it to make up for the PMP450's > lower transmit power, and as a result have "similar" final signal levels. > In the end, some customers heavily in trees "lost" up to 10dB of signal and > required moving their mounts etc. So the WiMAX / flat-panel-in-NLOS magic > seems to have been adding around 10dB. > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 7:58 AM Josh Baird <[email protected]> wrote: > > Quite the opposite for us. PMP320 could burn through trees! > > > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 8:30 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > > WiMAX had little to no magical power against trees when we deployed it. > Trees apparently are hype resistant. YMMV. > > > > *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Paul McCall > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 20, 2019 4:22 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Cambium Medusa in 3.65 > > > > We were told recently by Cambium that their Medusa product in 3.65 > competes favorable with LTE competitors. We ONLY need it for tree > penetration challenged customers. > > > > I have a healthy skepticism on 3.65 Medusa being able to magically work > better that standard 2.4 Ghz penetration, seeing the regular 450SM in 3.65 > performed as expected compared to a 2.4 Ghz 450SM, meaning not as well. > Seeing that LTE or Wimax far exceeds normal 2.4 Ghz gear, expecting 3.65 in > 450 series (even Medusa) is a strong leap of faith. > > > > We are open minded but skeptical of these recent claims. We are not happy > with the LTE options available ATM, having field tested Baicells and Bliniq > for a while now. > > > > Paul > > > > > > *Paul McCall, President * > > *Florida Broadband / PDMNet* > > *658 Old Dixie Highway* > > *Vero Beach, FL 32962* > > *772-564-6800* > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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