I feel like we're in a period with IoT just like just before the dot com
bubble burst where there is lots of money being spent on lots of possibly
good ideas and even more rediculous ideas.

I suspect in the next few years we will see a lot of these rediculous ideas
fail and we'll be left with what actually makes sense.

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 7:32 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I guess I'm behind the times.  Why do lightbulbs and toasters need
> connectivity?
> I suppose we can start using /22's now and make the DHCP pool 1000 IP's.
>
> What's this about a holy war with IPv6? I haven't noticed that either.  Is
> there someone who thinks depletion is totally ok and we'll never need v6?
>
>
> On 8/14/2019 1:39 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> With all the Internet enabled stuff people are putting in their houses
> now, are conventional routers going to run out of LAN IP addresses?
>
>
>
> Yes, I know about IPv6 (and let’s not unleash that holy war), also about
> smarthome hubs.  But most people seem to be just buying stuff like fridges
> and toasters and doorbells and lightbulbs and cameras, and hooking them up
> to their WiFi router.
>
>
>
> Almost any router you buy at the store is going to have a LAN subnet like
> 192.168.1.0/24 and may not allocate all of that for DHCP range.  So there
> are at most 253 available addresses, and possibly as little as 50 or 100.
> Until recently this should have been way more than needed, but it seems
> inevitable that homes will soon have more than 253 connected devices.
>
>
>
> May just mean switching to a bigger subnet, but average Joe doesn’t know
> how to do that.  Meanwhile if during the day his “things” have taken the
> entire DHCP range and he gets home and his phone or laptop can’t get an IP,
> he things it’s an Internet problem.
>
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