I used to build two of these things into a rack mount box combining them into
the same waveguide. As I recall I used normal –48 VDC powering stuff which is
normally floating between 54 and 56 volts.
From: Daniel White
Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2019 7:04 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone familiar with troubleshooting SAF CFIP 106 24 GHz?
Ken a 56VDC PoE will work. I don't recall the exact input voltage but its
fairly wide.
No splitter on the 106 like the Lumina Steve.
Daniel White
Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
Ken Hohhof wrote on 6/11/19 23:41:
Not sure what you mean by top end thief, is that a POE extractor? These
radios just have an RJ45 for passive 48V POE. Data on 1,2,3,6 and power on
4,5,7,8. When I put the Mikrotik in the middle, I actually bypassed power
around it using a couple keystsone jacks. Radio reports something like 43V and
seems happy with it. I’m having trouble finding an equivalent POE, everything
I have is either 56V, with the exception of some spare POEs I had for WiMAX CPE
and they are only rated for 19W. Since it’s power on separate pairs and not
GigE, I guess I could just wire up a 48V Mean Well power supply to the power
pairs.
From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 10:20 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone familiar with troubleshooting SAF CFIP 106 24 GHz?
Have you swapped out the poe and top end thief?
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 9:02 PM Daniel White <[email protected]> wrote:
Yea I know a lot about those radios. They are pretty close to the Lumina
radios actually, and have very little in common with the Freemile. A CFIP-106
and a Lumina can actually link to each other... a Freemile and CFIP-106 would
not (different modems).
First I'd ask if you reached out to SAF support? I'd bet they wouldn't
hesitate to help you with it. Even then... I'd bet if they can they would be
willing to repair it (of course for a fee) if they can.
My gut says that something on the radio is failing. If SAF will sell you a
Freemile link you can reuse the antennas (if they have the adapters for those
arkivator antennas). An Integra 24GHz might be able to use those antennas as
well.
Either way... I'd make plans to replace the link. But call the SAF support
team in Denver first.
Daniel White
Co-Founder - Business Development & Operations
direct: +1 (702) 470-2766
Ken Hohhof wrote on 6/11/19 20:24:
Since I now have it bridged through 2 ports on a Mikrotik that I
control, I tried disabling and enabling the Mikrotik port, that didn’t fix it.
Last thing I did today was bypass the surge suppressor, I don’t have high hopes
for that, but I’m running out of things to try. If it would go down and stay
down I could actually troubleshoot it better, but by the time I get there it’s
back up and stays up for a day or two.
CFIP 106 is the Fast Ethernet product, no fiber port. I’m not sure if it
would talk to a Lumina or more likely a Freemile.
From: AF mailto:[email protected] On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2019 7:02 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:[email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] anyone familiar with troubleshooting SAF CFIP 106 24
GHz?
It is similar to the lumina, our workaround for this is a script in the
mikrotik to turn the port on and off. Or switch over to the multimode fiber
port. Only issue is i suspect we got the last two adapters they must have had
last year cause one looked like a well worn bench tester. If its got the
original suppressors, may bypass or replace those, or replace the POE thief
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019, 6:43 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
Anybody intimately familiar with this (discontinued) product? We
installed one 8 years ago for a customer between 2 of their buildings, have not
touched it since then and we have not had remote management of it. It’s the
only SAF link I’ve ever dealt with.
One side has started dropping the Ethernet link randomly for about an
hour every few days (both the radio and the router see the Ethernet link down).
I thought maybe the cable was too long, but we put a Mikrotik mid span so the
cable is now only 140 feet and it happened again this morning.
They don’t make this anymore, so I can’t just replace the radio to see
if that fixes it. I would have to do something like swap the radios between
the 2 ends and see if the problem moves.
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