North of $10k twitch 2000 licenses.  I think $1250 for another 1000 I believe

Features are all there just need configured.  Actually the Calix devices all 
check into a friendly tech acs so Id bet that’s what theirs is built on


> On Jun 7, 2019, at 4:53 PM, Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What kind of initial investment did you see? Any kind of features you're not 
> getting from the Friendly Tech ACS vs Calix Cloud?
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:45 PM Ryan Hill <[email protected]> wrote:
>> I’d highly suggest looking an investing in your own Friendly Tech ACS.  Up 
>> front cost is certainly an investment, but its yours.  We are well over 2000 
>> devices with a mix of cnPilot , ReadyNet, Calix, Adtran devices.  
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>>> On Jun 7, 2019, at 4:41 PM, Ryan Ray <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> We're also making the decision to go with Calix after deploying hundreds of 
>>> cnpilot. The hardware quality with cnpilot is just not there. Agreed that 
>>> for .54 cents per sub just charge a managed router charge. We're expecting 
>>> much better performance out of the calix. 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019 at 1:38 PM Darin Steffl <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> No great system works for free.
>>>> 
>>>> Calix is still the best option out there feature and performance wise. 
>>>> Price isn't bad once you consider how easy it is, can free up labor for 
>>>> money making things like sales, and reduces churn. I'm going to continue 
>>>> saying that the Calix cloud pays for itself over and over again. 
>>>> 
>>>> We pay for management of 1000 routers like $6500 a year for cloud which 
>>>> comes out to something like 54 cents per month per sub. Sell your 
>>>> customers managed router service if you're worried. We include it at zero 
>>>> cost now because it's better they have a good wifi experience than a 
>>>> shitty one and then cancel service. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 5:30 PM Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I'm curious what people are doing for home WiFi.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I've looked at Calix, Plume, and other big name systems.  They're all 
>>>>> pretty awesome, but the recurring cost is a little tough to swallow.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't like Mikrotik for this purpose because A) no central management 
>>>>> unless you write your own and B) it's daunting for new techs to learn 
>>>>> some basic things like port forwarding or switching to bridge mode.   I 
>>>>> mean it's nice that the Mikrotik can do everything, but a port 
>>>>> forwarding rule doesn't need to be that hard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With Ubiquiti they have a bunch of different products with diverging 
>>>>> target markets.  Hard to get a handle on what I would want.  I do like 
>>>>> that UNMS is available for free.  I don't like that AmpliFi isn't 
>>>>> supported in UNMS, and honestly the pricetag on the Mesh nodes is a bit 
>>>>> high ($100+). The AirCube models seem about right, but I wish it had a 
>>>>> couple of features from AmpliFi.  UniFi is a nice system and AFAIK the 
>>>>> only UBNT thing with zero touch provisioning, but it's not convenient 
>>>>> for many individual networks on the controller.  I guess I feel like 
>>>>> they have 3 different product lines that are each almost right, but they 
>>>>> couldn't quite bring it all together.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cambium CnPilot with CnMaestro ticks most of my check boxes, but 
>>>>> (correct me if I'm wrong) I don't think they make a mesh/repeater type 
>>>>> of unit.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess I could look at ReadyNet again.  I can't remember why I didn't 
>>>>> run with them earlier.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What is the Borg using for home WiFi to sell as a service?
>>>>> 
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