Even Mikrotik admits it sucks. 

It can take 10 - 20 minutes to process a change in the routing table. That's a 
problem. 




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From: "Darin Steffl" <[email protected]> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:55:30 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 


I don't understand how you guys think BGP kills Mikrotik. We have ccr1072 and 
ccr1009 taking full tables and it takes about 3-5 minutes and winbox works fine 
the whole time. The router is not on its knees so I don't understand why people 
say it's as bad as it is. 


On Mon, Apr 22, 2019, 11:07 AM < [email protected] > wrote: 





Assuming you intend to take in full tables/do more than just receive a default 
route from your peers, definitely go with the x86 based CHR. We’re running 
CCR1072s at edge and core. They’re great on the core. However, until RouterOS 
V7 drops, full tables on a CCR1072 will take about 15 mins to pull down and the 
router will be on its knees the whole time. 

From: AF < [email protected] > On Behalf Of Mathew Howard 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:36 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [email protected] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 



If you're doing BGP, I would definitely go with a RouterOS x86 box instead of a 
CCR. 



There are some nice pre-built options from Linktechs or Baltic, or you can put 
your own together. 



On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:22 AM Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: 
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Design first, identify weak points second, decide products third. 

Put each upstream on a separate router and do iBGP between routers. Possibly 
even separate edge routers and core routers. 



A major weak point on a CCR are their ability to do BGP well in v6. 



What is your non-BGP resource hog now? Are you absolutely sure you have that 
resource configured optimally? 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Paul McCall" < [email protected] > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:08:47 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 

Two parts Mike, 

We are adding (2) 10Gbit connections to the web soon, are adding 2 10Gbit 
connections on the “internal network” side of things to process some fiber 
customers coming on board. 

So, there are 4 SFP+ immediately used, and we will have more and would like a 
spare or two anyway, so 8 SFP+ capability would seem a requirement. 

Of course, with all this the processing power needs to keep up 



From: AF < [email protected] > On Behalf Of Mike Hammett 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 11:03 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [email protected] > 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 


What aspect are you outgrowing? 





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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 







From: "Paul McCall" < [email protected] > 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" < [email protected] > 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 9:41:34 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 
OR… is there a better way to go here x86, build your own box, etc. We used to 
use Lanner appliances years ago, but have felt most comfortable (easy to deal 
with) using Mikrotik Appliances in recent years. (More comments on line about 
common issues, etc.) 

Any suggestions? 

Paul 



From: AF < [email protected] > On Behalf Of Paul McCall 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2019 10:26 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group < [email protected] > 
Subject: [AFMUG] CCR1072-1G-8S+ 

We have outgrown of CCR-1036’s here at the core and looking at CCR1072-1G-8S+. 

Anybody selling these used? Looking for a pair of them 

Paul 



From: AF < [email protected] > On Behalf Of Chuck McCown 
Sent: Sunday, April 21, 2019 9:41 PM 
To: [email protected] 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review 




Science Fiction “High Life” 



Two thumbs down down down. 



Zero budget for a space flick. Lots of dryer hose and liquid tight. 

Space suits that don’t have seals for the helmets (looks like burlap in the 
back). 



The story line/plot was minimally OK but it was long and the obviously cheap 
cheap cheap effects ruin it for nerds. 



Weird gratuitous one way sex scene with Jullitte Binoche could have been 
slightly interesting but is was just gross and disturbing. 



Don’t waste money on this. 

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