We occasionally use the IgniteNet Fusion Dishes with ePMPs when we need a
few extra dB than what a Force 200 can do. There nice because they're a
little smaller than most 30dbi dishes (there's not a flat edge around the
outside, like most 2' dishes have), and they're cheap. They're not the
easiest to assemble though.

On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 1:17 PM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:

> OK, connectorized 450b seems like good news.  I wonder about the form
> factor.  And whether it’s just a 450i without the special interference
> filter.
>
>
>
> 450b mid gain on a reflector dish does not, I can’t see how it would be
> optimized enough to perform better than a 450b high gain, it sounds more
> like a convenience factor that you could pop them into an existing dish.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions for a good CPE 5 GHz external antenna?
>
>
>
> Maybe Cambium should do a version of the 450b with a Mimosa quick connect
> waveguide coupler instead of connectorized, then we could use the KPP Pro
> Line dish.  Still not sure if that is even shipping, their website says
> “check for availability”.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:48 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] parabolic dishes for CPE?
>
>
>
> Cambium is going to release a 450b connectorized.
>
>
>
> Also KP had a photo leak of a bracket that puts the 450b mid-gain on their
> reflector dish.
>
>
>
> Hopefully both of these become a reality sooner rather than later.
>
>
>
> -Sean
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 10:06 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> With Cambium discontinuing the 450 SM we have only the 450b and the pricey
> 450i SM to choose from.  With 450b high-gain we seem to lose around 2 dB of
> antenna gain compared to the old SM and a reflector dish.  And we recently
> tried our first 450m AP and found you really need to fix your low
> modulation subs first, or it’s like trying to drive a Ferrari on a gravel
> road.
>
>
>
> So my question is whether anyone is using connectorized SMs where you need
> more than ~23 dBi antenna gain, and if so, have you found an external
> antenna suitable for CPE applications?  We tried a few of the Jirous dishes
> several years back and I was not happy with the mechanical construction.
> Has anyone tried the KP Performance “Pro Line” dishes, they seem to be
> mainly aimed at Mimosa applications but there is a version with N
> connectors.  There is also the KPP feedhorn for their 28 inch reflector, I
> don’t think the coax connectors on the connectorized 450 SMs would reach,
> plus those SMs are discontinued now anyway, we’d have to use the very
> expensive 450i SM.
>
>
>
> For CPE applications I’d really like something that could go on a small
> diameter pipe like the leg of a customer TV tower, and I don’t want the
> installers messing with one of the designs where one set of bolts tightens
> the mount, the azimuth adjustment, and the elevation adjustment.  It seems
> like the choice is mainly between backhaul antennas which are overkill and
> cheap CPE antennas which are crap.
>
>
>
> I know anything we do is going to cost enough to possibly eat all the
> profits from the particular customer, but I figure we need the sector
> capacity, and the cost gets amortized over the entire subscriber base, not
> just a handful of customers 6 miles from the tower on the edge of a
> sector.  This has gotten to be a problem now that Cambium has lost us a
> couple dB with their latest designs at the same time that we need all subs
> on at least 6X because video streaming is making us really sweat frame
> utilization and sector capacity.
>
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