My understanding was it would take a complete redesign of the radio, and after sinking so much money in R&D, that wasn't really an option.  I'd also say its not great to announce a brand new product to market if the chip has been depreciated, even if they offered a last time buy.  How do you buy 5 years of chips knowing that there is no manufacturer support coming from it.  That's a big cost in inventory and a big risk on system development if issues are found down the road.

Not to say it couldn't be done - but I feel like Z wanted to move onto other things.

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ch...@wbmfg.com wrote on 3/6/19 09:16:
Every time I have had a chip become unavailable they always give me a last time buy opportunity.  So you shift into high gear and design it out. Surprised Remec would shutter for that cause. I did have one chip become unavailable when they moved the fab and broke the mask.  So I designed a tiny PCB that had three chips on it that could drop in place of the other chip.  Later I designed out the all in one chip due to cost savings when it once again became available.
*From:* Ken Hohhof
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*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Back from the dead.....

But the ODU is not the modem.  Also, that sounds like the ODU used on Apex/Giga/Lynx, not the new StrataPro.

I kind of assumed when Daniel said “modem” he meant a modem chip, SoC or chipset, not a whole OEM unit.

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Yes.  The Remec ODU went away and that killed products from a number of manufacturers.  It's why the PTP800 went away and the PTP820 came to be.

-Adam

On 3/6/2019 9:38 AM, Colin Stanners wrote:

    Was the modem manufacturer REMEC? They're the biggest name in that
    market AFAIK, but I would also assume that their product
    discontinuation times are measured in years and quite planned in
    advance.

    On Wed, Mar 6, 2019, 8:17 AM Daniel White <dwh...@atheral.com wrote:

        It wasn't vaporware, it was a finished product.  Just as they
        put it into production the modem manufacturer stopped making
        the modem the radio was designed around.

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        Ken Hohhof wrote on 3/5/19 08:28:

            Looks like that was the 24 GHz “small cell backhaul”
            product, which is the one they had at their booth.  That
            may have actually existed or even shipped to customers, I
            don’t know.

            *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of
            *Tim Withrow via AF
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            Last I heard from Ray Sewell was the following message in
            June 2016.

            "Hope you are doing well.  I wanted to let you know that
            we are offering a special introductory offer for the
            StrataPRO Si model of $3600 with free 1 Gbps FDX software
            key. Shipping in 2 weeks.  "

            
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            On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 Ken Hohhof <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

            If you’re talking the 6/11/18/23 GHz StrataPro, I think
            that may have been vaporware/brochureware.  Did anyone
            ever see an actual working piece of hardware?  I think the
            plan may have been to base it on the same Broadcom chipset
            we are now seeing in radios from vendors like Aviat.  I
            remember talking to John at a WISPAmerica show maybe 2015
            about that product and not getting any specifics about
            availability dates.

            *From:*AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Tim
            Withrow via AF
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            Who are the principals now?  Are they prior employees?

            If I remember right  John was over sales. Also If I
            recollect  some employees went to work for CTI, and there
            was a squirmish over that with prior mgmt.

            The StrataPro line that was released right before they
            closed up shop I don't see it mentioned anywhere, just the
            Apex and Orion line. Was this just a proprietary
            information buy on the product.or did they just assume the
            bussiness operations?

            
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            On Tuesday, March 5, 2019 Ken Hohhof <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

            I guess it’s good to see Ray back, how many times has he
            been laid off and rehired now by Trango? I wonder where he
            goes in the interim?  You’d think a more stable microwave
            company would hire him.

            Any guess if “Z” is still in the picture?  If they sold
            off the assets, probably not?

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            No more dead or a live than Dragonwave.


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            On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 9:16 PM Daniel White
            <dwh...@atheral.com> wrote:

                Jim has too much Trango deployed in his network to let
                it disappear.  I don't see it going away anytime soon.

                New products though... not sure what their R&D
                capabilities are now.

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                Ryan Ray wrote on 3/4/19 22:10:

                    Interesting. Just a little hard to trust a company
                    that already went down. Fool me once....

                    On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 6:58 PM Adam Moffett
                    <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:

                        I did not expect this one.

                            Hello Adam,

                            Ray Sewell here. I wanted to let you know
                            that Trango Systems sold off its assets to
                            a new company. The new company is Trango
                            Networks, LLC.  Trango Networks will
                            continue manufacturing the Orion/Lynx
                            series of licensed microwave radios and
                            providing support for most of the other
                            products.  We are also actively developing
                            new products.

                            We are going to manufacture the Orion
                            series. We’ll start with the Apex Orion
                            which is our all outdoor system that runs
                            on -48 Vdc via POE or Direct DC power.  It
                            supports 1 copper and 1 fiber Ethernet
                            port.  It is also capable of XPIC (Cross
                            Polarization Interference Cancellation), 8
                            MB programmable packet buffer, Multilayer
                            header compression to increase capacity,
                            ultra-low latency & jitter in all ACM
                            modes, Very high power and 500 Mbps FDX
                            throughput on a 56 MHz channel.  Up to 761
                            Mbps FDX Layer 2 using Header
                            Compression.  The split design Giga Orion
                            will be shipping by May.

                            Some of the qualities that make us stand
                            out from the competition.

                            1) High Quality US designed and
                            manufactured products

                            2) Factory Direct - no middleman.

                            3) Ultra-Fast lead times for products. 
                            Much is in stock or less than 2-week lead
                            time for common bands/antenna sizes.

                            4) Pre-sales support- Free Path analysis,
                            frequency availability analysis.

                            5) One stop shop for accessories,
                            licensing, coordination.

                            6) Link Configuration based on customer
                            inputs at ship time with box labeling

                            7) Online support ticketing, live person
                            tech support and engineer escalation for
                            tough problems.

                            8) Fast RMA turn times (< 2weeks).

                            9) Free software upgrades and technical
                            data via Trango Support portal

                            10) Competitive pricing and warranty.

                            Let me know if I can be of any assistance.

                            Sincerely,

                            Ray Sewell

                            Technical Sales Support

                            858-248-4010 Direct

                            _www.gotrango.com <http://www.gotrango.com>_

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