Good info, Matt.

 

One thing to consider, the various SAS vendors may offer services that make 
them attractive to certain WISPs.  Like coordinating between adjacent WISPs, or 
making it easier to bond channels, or taking into consideration APs that are 
synced and can be on the same frequency, I’m probably not doing a good job 
thinking of what those might be, but the CBRS experts at WISPA are familiar 
with them.

 

So if we don’t directly choose and contract with a SAS vendor but rather deal 
with Cambium as an intermediary, that could possibly be problematic, if a WISP 
really doesn’t agree with the choice Cambium makes.

 

Also as far as fees, I hope the SAS vendors understand that a few dollars per 
subscriber could amount to 10% of revenue.  It’s one thing for mobile wireless 
where the CPE is low power and you only pay per basestation.  But with fixed 
wireless, we are paying for every sub, and if the SAS vendors get too greedy, 
the whole deal could fall apart.  The going rate for services that charge per 
subscriber (like billing systems or bandwidth management systems) is in the 
range of $0.50 to $1.00.  If they are thinking $3 or $5 per customer, that’s a 
lot just to maintain a database and tell you what frequency you can use.  I’m 
going to assume that any of the big 4 mobile carriers who are seriously 
planning to deploy fixed wireless are telling them the same thing, unless their 
plan is to use CBRS opportunistically and only pay SAS fees when a particular 
CPE needs to use the spectrum.  That’s the big difference, they are doing 
spectrum aggregation, while we are using CBRS as our exclusive spectrum for 
those particular APs and CPEs.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis via AF
Sent: Friday, February 15, 2019 4:28 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Cc: Matt Mangriotis <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Are NN licenses still selling despite 
CBRS coming?

 

Regarding the original question… I am not sure what they’re worth, but 
depending on the FCC response to the petition to extend part 90 operations 
beyond April 17, 2020, and what they rule regarding license expiration dates, 
that value could go up a bit.

 

The whole CBRS subject is quite complex as you might imagine…

 

As of right now, I believe there are 5 vendors approved to be SAS providers: 
Federated Wireless, CommScope, Google, Keybridge and Sony.  

 

(Of those, there will be 2 separate ESC (Environmental Sensing Capability) 
sensor networks. One installed by Federated, and one jointly owned/operated by 
Google and CommScope.  This network provides capabilities for coastal operation 
where exclusion zones existed under Part 90 rules).

 

We at Cambium plan to utilize cnMaestro as the domain proxy (or the link) to 
the SAS service. As a customer of ours, you’ll be paying the monthly fees 
directly to us, and we will be handing that over to the SAS provider. We are 
working with all of the Big 3 (Federated, CommScope and Google) and will choose 
the provider that provides the best service and price for our customers. The 
goal is to eliminate some of the burden associated with CBRS operation. I am 
not yet sure exactly what the fees will be for this, but you can ball park it 
at a few dollars per device per month.

 

Dave is correct in that the PMP 450 platform (all devices), which are currently 
certified under Part 90 rules, will require simply a software update in order 
to continue operating under Part 96 rules. All of the hardware was designed to 
support operation all the way down to 3550 MHz from the beginning, and will 
communicate with the SAS as required by Part 96.

 

Regarding timing, it looks like ICD (Initial Commercial Deployment) may begin 
in May, and actual commercial release of GAA operation should happen sometime 
late Q3.  PAL auctions look to be mid-2020 or a bit later.

 

Cambium will publish more about this in the near future on our site, and we 
will be discussing this briefly during WISPAmerica.  I will be there if any of 
you guys want to come out to Cincinnati and chat about it.

 

Matt  

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 5:55 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> >
Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] Are NN licenses still selling despite CBRS 
coming?

 

My point was there is not a single SAS administrator, there are multiple 
vendors like Google, Federated Wireless and Commscope I think.  Each will have 
their own pricing and other pros and cons to choosing them vs another.

 

As far as Cambium, I expect you will need to use cnMaestro which will provide 
the interface to whichever SAS vendor you select.

 

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf 
Of dave
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 5:23 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Are NN licenses still selling despite CBRS coming?

 

>From what I understand if you have cambium gear that it can be turned up with 
>a firmware update.

As far as who gets paid the monthly check for use of the sas I am not clear on 
yet but I think cambium will 

be a big player in this to help folks that have their gear. 

 

On 2/13/19 5:09 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Which SAS vendor?

 

From: AF  <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf 
Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2019 4:18 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Are NN licenses still selling despite CBRS coming?

 

I heard today that the SAS was supposed to be operational imminently.  The 
claim was that it would already have been up if not for the federal shutdown.  
I was told to expect it in March.

....I guess we'll see.  It was a year away for 10 years, so maybe it'll be a 
month away for 10 months.

-Adam

On 2/11/2019 8:36 AM, Christopher Gray wrote:

Is there still value in selling an NN license? What sort of prices these days?

 

 

 

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