+1

We went with SmartRG back when it was ClearAccess (just over 10 years now).  
IMO they have the nicest ACS out there.  Couple that with their new 
analytics<https://www.smartrg.com/home-analytics> and it’s a nice win.

We are deploying the SR555ac<https://www.smartrg.com/sr555ac> as a single 
device for Ethernet, xDSL and bonded xDSL.

I just wish SmartRG had a nice whole home wireless setup.  Something where we 
could deploy range extenders or whole home wireless that worked with the router 
to keep SSID and security in sync.  I heard they were coming out with something 
this year but haven’t seen it yet.

SmartRG is looking at TR-143 for FCC testing.  They say they should have 
something in Q2 2019.



Charlie


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From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Chris Fabien
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 7:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix Gigacenters - how difficult to implement?

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Ken

We evaluated about 8 routers a couple years ago wanting a solid managed wifi 
offering. Calix GigaCenter 844E and SmartRG  SR400AC were standouts from the 
rest of the lot which included cambium, ready net, ignitenet and a few consumer 
routers for comparison. Between the two the 844E had slightly higher 5ghz 
speeds but the 2.4 range was better on SmartRG.

Ultimately we decided smartrg was a better fit for us from how they priced the 
management platform and also the Calix required a DHCP option to set a 
provisioning URL which our powercode BMU was unable to provide. So that broke 
the zero touch config. SmartRG routers phone home to a redirect server and they 
maintain a list if what MACs were sold to who so your units end up in your 
device manager system without any input from your network. Works great.

Overall we are happy with them. The Smartrg "home analytics" is TR161 based 
where it logs wifi signal and usage info from each device in the home. The 
Calix solution was more of a traffic analysis system to sort usage by 
application. I am not sure if it ties that to a device or not. Essentially when 
the customer calls up asking why was Netflix buffering last night, SmartRG 
gives you the info to say, dads laptop with a poor wifi signal was doing some 
kind of large transfer and hogging all the Wifi airtime, while calix gives you 
the answer, some device was doing a windows update and hogging all the 
bandwidth. At least that was my take on it 2 years ago.

I've also found the SmartRG people more accessible to work with. Calix had a 
serious superiority complex attitude problem. That extended to their pricing. 
Actually the 844E was very competitive but anything with GPON in it they priced 
as if it were solid gold. It's like they do not realize GPON is 15? Years old 
technology and should be a commodity priced thing like gigabit ethernet 
switches. Calix GPON doesnt work any faster than my cheap chinese GPON stuff 
although there are some bells and whistles you don't get with ZTE. However my 
customers dont pay me extra for the GPON shelf having bells and whistles.

So, that's how we ended up with ZTE GPON and SmartRG router behind it. Although 
SmartRG is supposedly releasing a SR900? Which has an SFP WAN port with several 
options for wan interface ( GPON, AE BiDi, VDSL, gigE)

Hope that's helpful info
Chris


On Mon, Nov 19, 2018, 9:25 PM Ken Hohhof 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
I should add that I talked to Mike Carpinelli at WISPAmerica in March 2016 and 
he has been returning my emails and had actually set up a time for a 
conference.  But as I plowed through all the documentation on the Calix site, I 
couldn’t find any of the basic information most vendors give you, basically a 
getting started guide.  What are you  going to need, a step-by-step guide to 
hooking it all up, and screenshots of the GUI that your people will see, and 
that your customers will see.

Furthermore, from the discussion here, it seems even WISPs that are using Calix 
products aren’t clear on Calix Cloud vs Consumer Connect, are they the same 
thing, are they different.  It seems like one is too expensive, and the other 
has the secret sauce and without it you’re missing half the features.  Or maybe 
they are different names for the same thing.  Very confusing.

Originally I thought I just needed to order a handful of devices for lab  and 
beta testing, and that we’d learn through the hands-on experience.  But I 
backed off when I found the documentation wasn’t telling me any of the things I 
needed to know.  Clearly just getting some devices in my hands wasn’t going to 
resolve the knowledge gap, if I was finding the documentation totally unhelpful.


From: AF <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On Behalf Of 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 7:00 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix Gigacenters - how difficult to implement?

Cory is about as official as it gets.

From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2018 4:28 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calix Gigacenters - how difficult to implement?

I would love to see "official" answers.  I'm looking at routers and managed 
WiFi for an FTTH build passing around 10,000 households.  I haven't made any 
commitments yet, so I'd be willing to talk about Calix.
On 11/19/2018 6:13 PM, [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Actually this is the beginning.

From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, November 16, 2018 8:50 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: [AFMUG] Calix Gigacenters - how difficult to implement?

For those of you who’ve successfully deployed Calix:

I’ve been wanting to do something with the 844E and 804 since WISPAmerica 2.5 
years ago, but I feel like I’m at the starting line of a marathon with my feet 
stuck in buckets full of concrete.

Calix has tons of documentation, and after reading it, I feel about 1% smarter. 
 I don’t know what the end user or a tech sees as an interface for analytics 
and troubleshooting and tweaking settings.  I don’t know if you can do a 
standalone implementation with just the Calix Cloud and some Gigacenters and 
Mesh units, I get the impression you  need to mess with APIs and tie into all 
sorts of operations systems that we don’t have.  I’m not even clear on whether 
we need to set up some kind of on-network TR-069 server, or if that’s all a 
cloud service hosted by Calix.

Is the Calix stuff relatively straightforward to use, on a par with Cambium 
cnPilot and cnMaestro Cloud?  And maybe Calix documentation is just very 
confusing or I’m being stupid?  Or are these things pretty complicated to 
incorporate into a WISP network and get all the advantages of the devices and 
cloud management?

I’m trying to decide whether to keep struggling and get more help from Calix, 
or give up.
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