I've been wondering where to find a TR-69 ACS that isn't awful. RNControl was at least intuitive to use.  I had assumed it was only for ReadyNet's routers, but I guess I'll have to talk to them about "bringing our own router".

If I talk to Affinegy will I cry when I find out what it costs?


On 11/16/2018 2:11 PM, Joe Novak wrote:
+1 for Consumer connect being expensive.

There is several other TR69 complaint router management vendors, that do have direct support for the Gigacenter. Affinegy.com is one we looked at, RNControl(ReadyNet) has the ability to also do a 'bring your own router' to their TR-069 platform. There is at least one more that had a setup too, I just can't think of the name..

The thing I like about the Calix, which we had trouble with in other platforms, is stability. The damn things just WORK. Zyxel, Readynet, Cambium, all had weird problems where after a week or two they could no longer be managed and required a reboot. Wifi issues. I never had the same problems with the Calix at home or at work. I ran it for about a month at home before we started deploying customers. Readynet/Zyxel/Cambium had some varying degree of annoyances, if it was either management locking up, or wifi disappearing - device locking up for no reason? Calix is the only one that lasted a month without crashing in some way shape or form. I don't really have the time or want to track down vendors problems. Not to say any of the vendors have terrible support, but there isn't enough time in the day.

We are also using Calix in our FTTH, but the whole pushing people to use consumer connect rubbed us the wrong way too. Would rather put in a dumb ONT and bridge it with a 844E behind it.

Joe



On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 12:55 PM Carl Peterson <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    We don't use the calix cloud (consumer connect or whatever its
    called these days)

    We do run CMS, but I'm not using it with our 844GEs. It thought
    this was possible, but they are really pushing people to pay them
    for consumer connect.  We do pay for support which includes CMS
    and they can be pretty arbitrary on pricing.  I think they just
    make it up as they go.

    We run a lot of GPON on E7-2s with 844G and GE ONTs. Easy to allow
    remote access from the E7-2 for management if needed.  (We run
    844GEs in active ethernet fiber MDUS to start, then move them over
    to GPON once we get fiber to the building or get enough customers
    in the building to justify an E7-2 and GPON card in the
    building).  In Active ethernet mode, they are kind of a PITA. 
    They will randomly lose their WAN VLAN settings and go back to
    their smart activate config.

    I have 844Es in the lab,  (shout out to Calix for sending them to
    me for free for my lab), and used one at home as a test router for
    awhile.  Big drawback of the 844E is that their cloud is expensive
    and there doesn't seem to be a free/cheap on-site version like
    CnMaestro. Routers do seem to work better then CnPilots.  We are
    still using CnPilots for our coper MDU and CSM customer. I prefer
    the performance of the 844E, but their cloud is too expensive, at
    least for us (other people have ball parked much better pricing
    then they quote us),  and there doesn't seem to be a free/cheap
    on-site version like CnMaestro.

    You can run them just like a regular router, except that you have
    a customer side interface and a provider side interface.
    You can create a golden config file and load it onto all your
    routers if you have defaults you want.

    They do support tr69 so you can roll them into your own management
    solution later if you like but you don't have to use it.



    On Fri, Nov 16, 2018 at 9:52 AM Ken Hohhof <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        For those of you who’ve successfully deployed Calix:

        I’ve been wanting to do something with the 844E and 804 since
        WISPAmerica 2.5 years ago, but I feel like I’m at the starting
        line of a marathon with my feet stuck in buckets full of concrete.

        Calix has tons of documentation, and after reading it, I feel
        about 1% smarter.  I don’t know what the end user or a tech
        sees as an interface for analytics and troubleshooting and
        tweaking settings.  I don’t know if you can do a standalone
        implementation with just the Calix Cloud and some Gigacenters
        and Mesh units, I get the impression you  need to mess with
        APIs and tie into all sorts of operations systems that we
        don’t have. I’m not even clear on whether we need to set up
        some kind of on-network TR-069 server, or if that’s all a
        cloud service hosted by Calix.

        Is the Calix stuff relatively straightforward to use, on a par
        with Cambium cnPilot and cnMaestro Cloud?  And maybe Calix
        documentation is just very confusing or I’m being stupid?  Or
        are these things pretty complicated to incorporate into a WISP
        network and get all the advantages of the devices and cloud
        management?

        I’m trying to decide whether to keep struggling and get more
        help from Calix, or give up.

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