I'm hoping that when the cabal is finally removed, then the Nanny State, Welfare State and Police State will be addressed. --
On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > The obvious difference there is that it's going to take a certain amount > of skill to use a manual lathe and mill. They're making it sound like any > idiot can just print out a complete, fully functional gun. Even with one of > those really good 6 figure printers, I'm assuming you're still going to at > least have to assemble the thing (not that it's really matters anyway, if > you can afford to spend that kind of money, you're going to be able to get > as many untraceable guns as you want). Anyway, if somebody actually did > manage to make a gun with a $90 3D printer, what are the chances it won't > blow up in their face when they try to use it? > > Pencils do seem pretty dangerous... and do we really need them, when safe, > soft tipped sharpies are so easily available? It would probably be best if > all just lived in padded cells, and were only allowed to use our sporks at > meal times, under proper supervision... > > On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:36 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > >> No, bicycle spoke drawings are not forbidden.... >> >> There are 3D metal printers. But for really good ones you are probably >> taking 6 figures. >> >> But a manual lathe and mill can be purchased for $1K and you can buy >> metal... >> >> I don’t think they are going to be able to draw a line, but let’s assume >> for a moment Nancy Pelosi and Maxine Waters are queens of the world. What >> would they say I wonder... We can only rent sporks from the restaurant >> while dining. No sharp pencils allowed? >> >> *From:* Mathew Howard >> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 1, 2018 10:29 AM >> *To:* AFMUG >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT 3d printing and guns >> >> Yeah... most people seem to have a very unrealistic idea of what a 3D >> printer actually does. I'm pretty sure I can't go buy a cheap 3D printer, >> download that file, and have it spit out a functional gun 10 minutes later. >> >> If I post instructions on the internet for building a gun out of an old >> bicycle, using a file and a hacksaw, would that be illegal? it's really no >> different... >> >> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 11:12 AM Seth Mattinen <se...@rollernet.us> wrote: >> >>> On 8/1/18 8:56 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>> > I had all of the 3D files for an AR-15 years ago. >>> > Widely available for download. >>> > Easy to send to a 3D printer or a CNC milling machine. >>> > The news is hyping this as something new. I’ll bet those files I >>> > downloaded are at least 10 years old. >>> > Give me a gun, micrometer, calipers, height gauge and I will re-create >>> > those files in a day. >>> > What is the difference between thick walled tubing and a barrel? >>> > Is a file that gives the design for a trigger or hammer going to be >>> > outlawed. >>> > But what if you make cap guns... Squire guns... airsoft or paint ball >>> > guns.... >>> > And are they going to outlaw just certain gun part files or >>> combinations >>> > of files.... this seems totally impossible to outlaw. >>> > >>> > >>> >>> It seems like people think anyone can go buy a $90 entry level 3D >>> printer and crank out a fully functional weapon instantly. Well, >>> something for stabbing could be done in one print. I have to assume that >>> everyone who is freaking out has never seen a real 3D printer. >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> ------------------------------ >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > >
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