My math puts it close to $2600 for the hardware (you need two duplexors per
radio, unless you're doing single polarity only).

I think the last one we did was around $600 + FCC fees... which depends on
whether or not you already have stuff licensed on either site, and if
you're doing multiple links - it looks like that project came out to about
$2800 total for licensing two links (they were both going back to the same
tower, which already had an existing 11ghz link, and cuts close to $1k off
the FCC fees over doing two completely new links to different sites).

But yeah, it should be just under $2k for a single link between two new
sites, so it's still well under $5k for a complete link.

On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:19 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:

> AF-11FX + Duplexor + 35 dBi antenna  x 2
>
>
> $2200 for the radio as per Gino.
> What is the lowest cost license going for?  $2K?
>
> Under $5K for the whole system.  Not too bad.
>
>
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2018 2:03 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Ohh and the added benefit of just 1 radios for spare cause you can change
> the duplexers …
>
> From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Moffett <
> [email protected]>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, July 23, 2018 at 3:30 PM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> I guess we're saying the same thing a different way.
> Yes it's the same channel horizontal as vertical.  You still have to
> coordinate and license two paths and it's still using 56mhz x2 and getting
> 20% less throughput than other product using the exact same spectrum and
> the exact same modulation.
>
> Yes the cost is still compelling.
>
>
> On 7/23/2018 1:33 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> I have to correct my statement, I meant to say:
>
>
> Difficult to compete with AF11x about $2200 with antennas and about
> 550-600 MBps  on a 56 mhz *xpic *channel (using a 80 ghz license).
>
>
> You can achieve 500-600 on a single xpic channel …there is some loss vs a
> traditional radio (10-15%) , but the cost benefit is way to big!
>
>
> From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Adam Moffett <
> [email protected]>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, July 23, 2018 at 1:12 PM
> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Wow, I keep accidentally going offlist.  The change is harder for me to
> get used to than I imagined.
>
> Anyway their datasheet says something like 350mbps SISO and 700mbs MIMO.
> Look carefully.
>
>
> On 7/23/2018 12:41 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote:
>
> Difficult to compete with AF11x about $2200 with antennas and about
> 550-600 MBps  on a 56 mhz channel (using a 80 ghz license).
>
> Latest firmware has 2046QAM …
>
> From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> [email protected]>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Date: Monday, July 23, 2018 at 12:06 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Sumbuddy needs to make a spreadsheet....
>
> *From:* Gino A. Villarini
> *Sent:* Monday, July 23, 2018 10:01 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Divide total throughput / cost …
>
> From: AF <[email protected]> on behalf of Chuck McCown <
> [email protected]>
>
>
>
> *Gino A. Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 9:11 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Just trying to get the highest throughput backhaul for the buck.
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 18, 2018 7:08 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11 or 18
>
> Both are 80 MHz, but the AF11 only uses 56 MHz wide...  If you look at the
> channel mask from a spectrum analyzer of an expensive carrier type 11 GHz
> radio (Dragonwave, Ceragon) it uses nearly all of the 80.
>
> 18 GHz, 112MHz x dual pol products exist for the ETSI and international
> market.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Of course I want to use an AF11X due to the price, but which band has the
>> wider channels?
>>
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