Hi John,

After a bit of digging, I found out that you shouldn't need to make any 
changes at all to the partition tree, as the system should automatically 
avoid bidding on items that have been marked as out of stock. I'll 
double-check this for you, though, and try to find out whether there's any 
delay.

As for your original question, I'm afraid that PLA-style campaigns are 
going away during this month, so I would strongly advise against doing any 
development with them.

Cheers,
Sérgio

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On Wednesday, 10 September 2014 13:00:40 UTC+1, m...@kickstone.co.uk wrote:
>
> If I set the bid to zero I get a BiddingErrors.INVALID_BID error. Do I 
> need to set anything else? My original question however was is it correct 
> that deleted partition objects are store in the underlying system as the 
> old style Product criteria with suitable conditions set, which leads onto, 
> is it possible to add these instead of dealing with the Partition space?
>
> the soap log is below  for the SET request is below:
>
> John
>
> <operations>
>                 <operator>SET</operator>
>                 <operand xmlns:ns2="
> https://adwords.google.com/api/adwords/cm/v201406"; 
> xsi:type="ns2:BiddableAdGroupCriterion">
>                     <ns2:adGroupId>14664965219</ns2:adGroupId>
>                     <ns2:criterion xsi:type="ns2:ProductPartition">
>                         <ns2:id>41443081129</ns2:id>
>                     </ns2:criterion>
>                     <ns2:biddingStrategyConfiguration>
>                         <ns2:bids xsi:type="ns2:CpcBid">
>                             <ns2:bid>
>                                 <ns2:microAmount>0</ns2:microAmount>
>                             </ns2:bid>
>                         </ns2:bids>
>                     </ns2:biddingStrategyConfiguration>
>                 </operand>
>             </operations>
>
> On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 11:44:47 AM UTC+1, Sérgio Gomes (Shopping 
> API Team) wrote:
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure if this is what you're asking, but if you simply 
>> set the bids to zero, that will disable any bidding on that 
>> BiddableAdGroupCriterion. This is, as Chuck suggested, a much better 
>> solution than removing and re-adding nodes to the partition tree as 
>> products go out of stock and back in.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Sérgio
>>
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>> Developer Relations
>>
>> Google UK Limited
>> Registered Office: Belgrave House, 76 Buckingham Palace Road, London SW1W 
>> 9TQ
>> Registered in England Number: 3977902
>>
>> On Tuesday, 9 September 2014 21:59:21 UTC+1, m...@kickstone.co.uk wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 3:15:21 PM UTC+1, Chuck Reeves wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Instead of removing the partitions, why not just disable the bids on 
>>>> them ?  This way when they come back on you wont need to rebuild the whole 
>>>> tree
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Sorry maybe an obvious question, but how do you disable the bids on 
>>> them. I initially tried to do something like this before but couldn't get 
>>> it to work, hence removing them.
>>>
>>> Also you don't need to build the whole tree provided it is intact before 
>>> and after you complete the operation so I am able to just add or delete a 
>>> single product for example without touching the root or any other nodes.
>>>
>>> John 
>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, September 9, 2014 6:36:22 AM UTC-4, m...@kickstone.co.uk 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As a follow up to the above, it looks like the enabled products are 
>>>>> also listed as Product criterion, it does indeed look as though google 
>>>>> are 
>>>>> mapping the new shoping partitions to the old style product entries 
>>>>> behind 
>>>>> the scenes, perhaps explains why the interface is so clunky and awkward, 
>>>>> for example not allowing partial updates, etc 
>>>>>
>>>>> The next logical question is can I simply skip the messing around with 
>>>>> trees/partitions and simply create the product mappings directly, I only 
>>>>> ever create one to one mappings for a single product so this would be a 
>>>>> lot 
>>>>> easier - it may even allow me to make batch calls and turn on partial 
>>>>> updates. My main concern is that google decide to implement the 
>>>>> underlying 
>>>>> mechanism differently and break it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Please advise
>>>>>
>>>>

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