Hello Phil,

 Well, it's possible to get rate limited if you make an excessive
number of requests over a long enough period of time, but I think
you'd have a hard time doing it if you're just adding a hundred ad
groups one at a time.

 When you say that half of the ad groups failed, did you manage to
check to see if there was a specific number of seconds after the
request was initially made that each of the requests timed out?

Cheers,
-Jeff Posnick, AdWords API Team


On Apr 29, 3:49 am, Phil <5000...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> NEW!
> OK, so yesterday (28/04/09) Half of my adgroups went in, the other
> half timed out. Then, I reran in the failed half and they went in
> fine.
> Could it be that Google is blocking me after a certain number of calls
> in a specific timescale?
> If so, this must be a new limit because as of 3 weeks ago the numbers
> I was pushing in were higher - but I had, maybe, 1 timeout per push.
>
> Is there a new hit limit on the API?
>
> Phil.
>
> On Apr 23, 9:57 am, Phil <5000...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Jeff,
> > Thank you for the links. I will investigate.
> > The strange thing for me is that all this was working fine, and
> > nothing has changed at this end. Then all of a sudden we get patches
> > of time outs.
> > When I run next I will look into this further.
>
> > Cheers
> > Phil.
>
> > On Apr 22, 4:34 pm, AdWords API Advisor <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com>
> > wrote:
>
> > > Hello Phil,
>
> > >  If you're using .NET then the info at the bottom of this thread might
> > > be useful:
>
> > >  http://groups.google.com/group/adwords-api/browse_thread/thread/520a4...
>
> > > I can't personally vouch for those settings, but I believe that Peer
> > > has been using them for a while now and they have made a difference in
> > > the reliability of his SOAP requests. I don't see anything specific
> > > about timeouts there, but the timeout settings for .NET web requests
> > > are documented at
>
> > >  http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/system.net.webrequest.timeout...
>
> > >  I admit that it does sound strange that adding a single ad group
> > > would take over 30 seconds. Changing any the settings mentioned above
> > > might help alleviate the problem, but I'm also curious as to why your
> > > requests would be taking that long to complete. It's a little
> > > difficult to cross reference this particular type of issue with our
> > > logs, though, because on your end there's no response received (which
> > > would normally include an identifier that we could look up) and on our
> > > end it most likely looks like the request succeeded.
>
> > > Cheers,
> > > -Jeff Posnick, AdWords API Team
>
> > > On Apr 22, 3:45 am, Phil <5000...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I will elaborate as much as I can at this point, but as the API costs
> > > > money to use I will have to wait till the next run to get more
> > > > details. The same problem does not occur in the sandbox. I have also
> > > > been warned off judging speed issues of the production API against the
> > > > sandbox.
>
> > > > I am running a multi threaded push of new adgroups (an adgroup is
> > > > pushed in, then keywords and text ads for same). This works all very
> > > > nicely until 'sets' begin to time out. Then after a short period of
> > > > time (I would have said 5-10 adgroups timing out) everything stars to
> > > > work again. Out of 114 adgroups I lost about 20. These, when pushed in
> > > > again, went in no problem. The timeouts probably take about 30seconds.
> > > > I have had the problem where the connection is closed at your end
> > > > (that comes up as a soap exception i believe). It could well be the
> > > > client library (v1.3 for .net downloaded around these parts). I would
> > > > be reticent to up the limit because the same code has been working for
> > > > about 6 weeks and has only now started to have the problem. Also, if
> > > > it takes over 30seconds there is more of a problem than my code
> > > > needing to wait a little longer.
>
> > > > Thank you for your response.
> > > > Phil.
>
> > > > On Apr 21, 6:20 pm, AdWords API Advisor <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Hello Phil,
>
> > > > >  Could you elaborate a bit on the timeouts you're seeing? Do you have
> > > > > any indication whether the timeouts are imposed in your client code
> > > > > (e.g. your HTTP connection library closes the connection after X
> > > > > seconds), or whether your client code keeps waiting but the connection
> > > > > is closed on our end? Is there a specific number of seconds after the
> > > > > request was made after which the timeout always occurs?
>
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > -Jeff Posnick, AdWords API Team
>
> > > > > On Apr 20, 10:00 am, Phil <5000...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > When pushing in Adgroups/Keyword/Text Ads I am getting alot of time-
> > > > > > outs when communicating with Google. Previously (about two weeks 
> > > > > > ago)
> > > > > > I was doing a similar level of 'work' but not getting so many time
> > > > > > outs.
> > > > > > My code hasn't change, has Google changed policy?
>
>
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