Hello Phil,

 You just can't make a valid performance comparison between the
Sandbox and Production system. There's a completely different set of
SOAP servers, the backend datastores are on a completely different
scale, and the Sandbox has a number of key components mocked out.

Cheers,
-Jeff Posnick, AdWords API Team


On Jan 31, 11:12 am, Phil <5000...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> HI Jeff,
> Thank you for your reply.
> Can I read into what you said at the start that production performance
> will be higher than the sandbox?
>
> I was using lists for text ads and keywords (also using the checks
> first as advised), however in the case of adgroups I was adding them
> one buy one (then the ads and criteria to each).
> The cost turns out to be too high for the volume I indent (and it's
> very slow) so I have changed the model. The way I plan to manage the
> adgroups now is different and should be much cheaper (and faster,
> sandbox or not).
> Thanks for your advice, good titbits for any model.
>
> Phil.
>
> On Jan 28, 6:10 pm, AdWords API Advisor <adwordsapiadvi...@google.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Phil,
>
> >  The Sandbox is not intended for load testing or for getting an
> > accurate sense of how quickly operations will complete in the
> > Production environment. I don't think you can read very much into
> > Production performance one way or another from it.
>
> >  It is, however, a good place to test various strategies for creating
> > and managing large account structures. I'd recommend that you make
> > sure you're using the various batch methods when creating your account
> > structure (e.g. addAdGroupList(), addAds(), addCritieria()) and do
> > your operations in bulk if you're currently doing them one at a time.
> > You should be able to add all your new ad groups under the same
> > campaign in one or more calls to addAdGroupList(), and ditto for the
> > ads and criteria under the same ad group with one call to addAds() and
> > addCriteria(). We don't publicize any hard limits for the total number
> > of items you can pass into each method, but to keep things manageable
> > I'd limit it to a couple of hundred per call. For the ads and
> > criteria, I'd recommend you check them in advance for policy errors
> > (checkAds() and checkCriteria()) so that one bad input doesn't prevent
> > your batch from going through.
>
> > Cheers,
> > -Jeff Posnick, AdWords API Team
>
> > On Jan 28, 10:16 am, Phil <5000...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
> > > I have done some searching but can't find any info on if the sandbox
> > > is any slower than the 'real' Adwords API. Please just repoint me if I
> > > have missed something blatant.
> > > I can't find any docs on relative speed.
>
> > > I am currently averaging 2 seconds per adgroup (with keywords and text
> > > ads). Which means the 2000 or so adgroups I will need to push could
> > > take over an hour. Will this drasticly speed up using the 'real' API?
>
> > > Kind Regards
> > > Phil.
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