Image backups an option? Might get the fs back-up under control, but what about a FS restore using file based back-ups? Doing a multi million object restore will take ages.
Best regards, Met vriendelijke groet, Karel Bos MS Global Practice IT Infrastructure Services Commvault/IBM Tivoli Storage Manager specialist Operations Central Atos Origin Nederland B.V. Naritaweg 52, 1R.10 1043 BZ Amsterdam The Netherlands karel....@atosorigin.com +31(0)88 2659543 www.nl.atosorigin.com -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Strand, Neil B. Sent: maandag 28 februari 2011 16:51 To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Windows servers with a kazillion files and Win2K8... Wanda, If it is a 32 bit system, the most memory that can be addressed is 4G. 2^32 = 4,294,967,296 bytes 4,294,967,296 / (1,024 x 1,024) = 4,096 MB = 4GB Moving to a 64bit system would allow additional memory to be fed to the beast. If the windows servers are not running the application but simply providing filespace to the application that is running on another server, see if the following is possible: - Implement DFS and provide a virtual tree that is composed of multiple physical data repositories. Each repository could be backed up using a proxy - recovery may be a bit convoluted, but possible. Identify the problem not as a backup problem but a data management problem that requires some level of granularity to be introduced to the environment. Cheers, Neil Strand Storage Engineer - Legg Mason Baltimore, MD. (410) 580-7491 Whatever you can do or believe you can, begin it. Boldness has genius, power and magic. -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:35 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Windows servers with a kazillion files and Win2K8... Thanks for the reply and the reference; I'll read that. It's a 32 bit system. Do you think adding RAM will help with the issues navigating the file tree? -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Storer, Raymond Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:22 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] Windows servers with a kazillion files and Win2K8... Wanda, is this a 32 or 64 bit system? An NTFS file system will support about 4 Billion files on a single volume http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc781134(WS.10).aspx . If you are having performance issues with this and you can switch it to a 64bit platform and add loads of RAM, I would do it. Ray -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU] On Behalf Of Prather, Wanda Sent: Friday, February 25, 2011 2:03 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: [ADSM-L] Windows servers with a kazillion files and Win2K8... I have a site with an application that generates kazillions of tiny files that are stored forever. I've already yelled about it, but it's a purchased, customer-facing black-box app that they really can't change. (Naturally, when it was bought umpty years ago, nobody thought about the problem reaching this size or what the ramifications would be.) Every day the app creates more files. They have multiple Win2K3 servers that already have multiple luns containing over 35M files each, one is over 75M files. We are using journaling to back them up successfully (most days). But it's a struggle just to expand the file tree with Windows explorer, and there are exposures on the days when the journal gets overrun (takes 72 hours for TSM to scan the filesystem and revalidate the journal). Looking for anything that might help save our bacon. Has anybody had experience with this issue and Win2K8? Does Win2K8 do any better than Win2K3 at handling huge numbers of files in 1 NTFS directory? 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