I second that. In general, my approach is that any product the vendor is too ashamed to post pricing for is a product not worth considering.
As far as this 'Processor Value Unit Pricing' model goes -- I'll track what information the software provides me, I do *not* jump through hoops to get pricing data for vendors. I was current under the old model so I must be properly covered under the new one; I'll worry about the details if and when I add systems. Tom Kauffman NIBCO, Inc -----Original Message----- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gill, Geoffrey L. Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 2:43 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Pricing model for 5.4 Just "one" of my pet peves with this product. I just went through this with someone and it looks to me like the changes that were made since the last time have dramatically increased the cost here. Having to contact someone to figure out pricing makes no sense when you can find pricing for most anything else you want on the internet. Oh sure, I would expect that you need to contact someone to get "better pricing" before you buy, but to not have a way to at least figure out something on your own is unsatisfactory to me. Geoff Gill TSM Administrator PeopleSoft Sr. Systems Administrator SAIC M/S-G1b (858)826-4062 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Longo Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 4:23 PM To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU Subject: Re: Pricing model for 5.4 I second the motion, Steve! TSM should be able to track/mange the license scheme. Or they should provide an additional tool to do it - without charging you $100K for the tool! David B. Longo System Administrator Health First, Inc. 3300 Fiske Blvd. Rockledge, FL 32955-4305 PH 321.434.5536 Pager 321.634.8230 Fax: 321.434.5509 [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> Steven Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2/6/2007 7:11 PM >>> Hi All, I was looking at the TSM 5.4 announcement letter and notice that 5.4 now attracts "Processor Value Unit" pricing. The (AP) announcement letter points you to the PVU announcement letter AP06-0154, which contains a lot of justification and not much else. It in turn points you to a website for detailed information - but this is just the passport advantage portal. I have a few concerns. First, PVU pricing may mean an effective price rise, although it is hard to tell without detailed information. Certainly its a change. Second, why is it so hard to find definitive information? This should be widely published on a publicly available website. Third, yet again the administrative burden of tracking licencing requires detailed hardware information to be maintained and correlated with the TSM usage. Again, the product has not been enhanced to automatically collect and maintain this information, providing a significant overhead for administrators and a lack of assurance that licencing is *ever* correct. Sure IBM has the right to change their licencing model, but they should also provide tools to do the job efficiently and effectively and provide an audit function to allow customers to know they are correctly licensed. If anyone has been able to find the PVU detail could they please post it for those of us who don't have access to Passport Advantage? Thanks Steve. Steven Harris AIX and TSM Admin, Brisbane Australia CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email and any attachments are for the exclusive and confidential use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, distribute or take action in reliance upon this message. If you have received this in error, please notify us immediately by return email and promptly delete this message and its attachments from your computer system. We do not waive attorney-client or work product privilege by the transmission of this message.
