Andy et al:
 Ironically, missed this exchange because I've been dealing with the
same problem Chris reported,
though I didn't know it at the time.

 In our situation, the user reported seeing 2.8 million files expired
after a manual backup.

 Upon much further investigaion, as best as we can determine, the user
had installed the
TSM software, and started the schedule service, before configuring the
DFS Replication.
Thus, TSM backed up the replicated file systems without issue until the
user bounced the
service (for reasons beyond this email); the subsequent backup then
honored the same
type of "Operating System" excludes Chris reported.

Before reading Richard Sim's reply to this thread, our working
hypothesis had
been that the DFS Replication service created registry entries that the
TSM client
converts to "Operating System" excludes...which seems to be reinforced
by Richard's
reply.

As such, the users rebooted the server in question, starting the TSM
service and
then the DFS replication without success (at least, as the Query INCLEXCL
output would indicate)

It seems to us that what your workaround does is, by shutting down the
DFS service,
is to remove these registry entries so that the TSM scheduler, when
started by the CAD,
doesn't add the "Operating System" excludes, and thus backup the file
services.
(Our experience illustrates why the CAD has to be used to start the
scheduler, btw)

As such, is there another way to tell the TSM client (v5.3.4.4 btw) to
ignore the
registry entries?

(BTW, the news that a fix is possibly available soon is welcome news indeed)

Andrew Raibeck wrote:
Hi Chris,

This is described in APAR IC50148 (searchable on the web by doing a search
from the link in my sig).

The workaround is to shut down the DFS replicator service before starting
the scheduler (you can't use PRESCHEDULECMD for this), then run the
backup; after the backup completes, you can restart DFS (for this you CAN
use POSTSCHEDULECMD).

One method to accomplish this would be:

1. You need to use the CAD to manage the scheduler.

2. Define a schedule on the TSM server to execute a batch script that
shuts down the DFS service. This schedule should run at the same time or
before the scheduled backup. Give that schedule a high priority so it runs
FIRST. For example, if you define this schedule and the backup to run at
20:00, but give the batch script schedule a higher priority, it will run
first. Then the backup will run, and you can configure a POSTSCHEDULECMD
operation to restart DFS.

The good news is that after the APAR was initially closed, further
investigation yielded that we could fix it in the defect stream.
Availability is currently targeted for end of this month or early next
(subject to change at our discretion).

Regards,

Andy

Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
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"ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 01/12/2007
06:49:54 AM:


Hi all,

Just having problems backing up my Win2003 Server (TSM-Client 5.3.4.0,
TSM-Server 5.2.4.3) :

First on this Server was DFS-Service started and the DFS-Replication

Service

(only local volumes).
While running normal incremental backup, all files in that replicated

area

were expired !!
Looking on servers include/exclude list ( dsmc q inclexcl ), I see that

those

areas are excluded by operating system (source file).
   --> "Exclude all   d:\user\...\*      Operating System"

First question : Does the operating system mark those files as system

files

or where does tsm get that information from ??
Second question : Is there a possibility to remove that

exclude-statement or

to backup those areas matching the same directory-tree as former backups
(restore and versions).

With stopped replication service and option "dfsbackupmntpnt  no", I see
those files not excluded (im GUI) and can back them up.
(But I don't want to stop replication each time and don't know which

other

effects happen)

Thanks for help

Chris



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