OK, thanks for that, and I can understand that there is a need for a dir to be required for files that are to be contained within it, but I have another problem with this. Let's say I want create the new management class that I want to use to keep just a certain directories files for a certain length of time ( and also that the retain only setting will be higher than the standard mc we are currently using ). Now, what I don't like here is that fact that the retain only setting is then applied to all dirs on the client being backed up. Why does this not just get applied to the directory (and sub dirs), in question, and is there a way to stop this from happening?
Many thanks again Farren Minns Solaris System Admin / Oracle DBA IT - Hosting Services John Wiley & Sons, Ltd. Direcories may expire, but files never end up in "limbo". Examine the BACKUPS table: each object is fully identified by filespace and its full path, which obviously includes its containing directory. Backing up a directory, as an object, is usually rather meaningless in a Unix environment as such directories have no supplementary info. In a Windows environment, there is a lot of supplementary info, which is why Windows directories end up in storage pools while traditional Unix directories are simply identified in the TSM database. In a restoral, surrogate replacement directory info is planted where either the dir is not in the TSM db, or has not yet been encountered in Restore Order. The absence of a directory in TSM is problematic in GUI restorals, where the GUI wants to present each dir as you navigate down the path tree: this can cause the GUI to go no further. TSM wants directories to exist at least as long as contained objects, for a reason. Richard Sims On Apr 20, 2005, at 9:56 AM, Farren Minns wrote: > Hi all TSMers > > Running TSM 5.1.6.2 on Solaris and have a question regarding the > different > way that directories and files are dealt with. I have always been used > to > excluding files, directories, file spaces etc and also including them > with > different management classes should the need arise for something other > than > our standard retention settings. However, I have only just learnt > about the > dirmc setting and this has lead me to believe that we probably a few > million entries in our TSM db for directories that are no longer > relevant ( > the deleted files having been expired after 60 days but the directories > having been bound to one of our higher retention man classes ). So > here is > my question. > > Lets say I have a retention policy on a dir that states that the only > copy > of a file (after deletion), should be kept in backup for 365 days but > that > I have a dirmc setting in the clients dsm.sys files that will expire > all > deleted directories after just 60 days, how does TSM handle this? What > happens re expiration after 60 days? Do the directories get expired > and the > files just end up in some kind of limbo? > > Many thanks in advance ###################################################################### The information contained in this e-mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and confidential and intended solely for the named recipient(s). If you are not a named recipient, you must not copy, distribute, or disseminate the information, open any attachment, or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received the e-mail in error, please notify the sender and delete the e-mail. Any views or opinions expressed in this e-mail are those of the individual sender, unless otherwise stated. Although this e-mail has been scanned for viruses you should rely on your own virus check, as the sender accepts no liability for any damage arising out of any bug or virus infection. ######################################################################