Andy, On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:31:59AM -0700, Andrew Raibeck wrote: > You can install ISC/Admin center once on a single machine, and access > remotely via your web browser.
Ok that helps. But you still have a big resource requirement to just being able to manage TSM with a graphical interface. > Also see my earlier post on this thread for where to find additional info. I read that post, but did not have time read all of it... One other thing I can think of is extra work for disaster recovery to a remote site. Now instead of installing 'just' a TSM server to get things going I need to install an ISC application somewhere to get a GUI management interface. And concluding from a the response that may take quite some extra time (and hardware). I can understand IBM is looking for a good solution to manage several products using a single interface. But I think a gradual move would be much better: start supporting ISC but still keep the webinterface for some time. I would prefer learning and using the new TSM 5.3 features first and later on get used to a new management interface. -Marcel > > Regards, > > Andy > > Andy Raibeck > IBM Software Group > Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development > Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked. > The command line is your friend. > "Good enough" is the enemy of excellence. > > "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 01/07/2005 > 10:21:58: > > > After a coworker managed to setup ISC and AC (Afre several attempts) > > I had a quick look at the interface. I agree with the complaints from > > others. Even better, I think an extra hardware requirement should be > > added: at least an 21in screen is needed as the ISC contains so many > > tabs icons and subwindows there is hardly any room left for the actual > > information you are interested in... > > I vote for a normal web interface besides of coarse the command line > > tool (when will IBM fix dsmadc to use terminal settings defined by > > the host, like the unix erase key)! > > The big advantage of the webadmin is that I can manage TSM from any > > system/workstation (I guess most have a web browser these days). > > I hope IBM does not expect me to install ISC/AC on all of these > > workstations... > > > > -Marcel > > > > On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 01:45:23PM +0100, Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM wrote: > > > Hi Guys! > > > I have been beta testing 5.3 for IBM and I too have tried convincing > IBM > > > that they are definitely not on the right track with the Admin Center. > > > I haven't received a response from them on my comments, so I'm afraid > they > > > will ignore our objections... > > > Especially resellers should be worried. You will never be able to > convince > > > small customers that one has to invest in a Windows workstation with a > high > > > performance processor and at least 1 Gb. (!!!!) of memory, just to run > an > > > administrative interface!! > > > So my plea to IBM too: Please give us back the WebAdmin!!!!! > > > Kindest regards, > > > Eric van Loon > > > KLM Royal Dutch Airlines > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Richard van Denzel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Friday, January 07, 2005 13:10 > > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > > Subject: Re: ISC on WinXP or Unix > > > > > > > > > Adrie, > > > > > > I totally agree with you. I've also test installed it (or at least I > > > tried) it on WXP, Linux (FC3) and AIX 5.2. The only installing which > > > succeeded was the AIX (it only took 3 hours to install the ISC and > AC). > > > It is also very annoying to have a /tmp of 750MB+, just for the sake > of > > > the installation. > > > > > > Lets hope IBM brings back the Webinterface asap, because I did not see > > > advantages of the ISC yet. > > > When I test created a diskpool volume of 5GB on my Linux TSM 5.3 > server it > > > failed at almost 5GB with no apperent reason. When I did it manually > (long > > > live dsmadmc) it went just fine. > > > > > > Richard. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adrie van Tuyl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> > > > 07-01-2005 12:05 > > > Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" > > > > > > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU > > > cc: > > > Subject: Re: ISC on WinXP or Unix > > > > > > > > > At 20:24 1/6/2005, you wrote: > > > >On Thursday 06 January 2005 13:14, Warren, Matthew (Retail) wrote: > > > > > ..I'm glad to hear. I use a suite of python scripts that ive put > > > > > together / migrated from other shells over the last 5 years or > more. I > > > > > would be frustrated if dsmadmc dissappeared... > > > > > > > > > > Is this a possibility for future release? > > > >I don't know and I hope not. I think 99.9% of the TSM customers use > > > dsmadmc > > > >in some sort of scripting language to automate/monitor TSM. I don't > > > think > > > >IBM can risk to loose 99.9% of it's TSM customers. > > > > > > > >Stef > > > > > > This seems they do not care. > > > Probably 90 % or more (maybe even 99.9%) of the customers did use the > > > Webinterface of the TSM server. > > > Many of the customers (>80%?) do not have an ISC. > > > So these customers are forced into setting up an ISC, preferably on > other > > > hardware than on the TSM server because of the resource utilization of > the > > > ISC. IMHO this does not make any sence at all. > > > > > > I tried to set up an ISC in a test environment. I tried a PII 400 with > 384 > > > MB. On this machine TSM 5.2.3.5 works perfectly for testing purposes. > > > I did not manage to install the ISC with the TSM admin (after an 8 > hours > > > of > > > trying), and for now I don't want to put any effort in it because I > don't > > > have the equipment nor the time. > > > > > > For the people who managed to get ISC working; is it worth it? Is the > TSM > > > admin dramatically improved? Have all the wishes which we see come by > in > > > this group come true? > > > > > > I sincerely hope we get our webinterface back. > > > > > > Adrie > > > > > > > > > ********************************************************************** > > > For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: > http://www.klm.com > > . This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged > > > material intended for the addressee only. 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