Hi Steve How many nodes and what are the amount of data?
We have 500 servers of which 250 are large unix servers. We normally have a daily incremental backup of about 5-6TB every night. All theese nodes are backing up its data to a HACMP cluster based on pSeries 660 machines with 4GB of RAM, 4 processors(675Mhz), 2 I/O drawers and 8 FC HBA:s. We have a normal throughput rate of about 250-300MB/s during migration and backup storage pool processing and about 100MB/s during backup to disk/tape (2 Gigabit Etherchannel adapters). The total amount of data is 300TB. We have this far no performance issues, and do not have any issues with either CPU utilization or disk wait. I dont believe you would need a p690 machine to backup the data. We could without a problem double the amount of data transferred each night without issues. We would probably be forced to add more hardware though, like disk(resident on HDS 9960 today) and FC HBA:s aswell as tape drives(9840B/9840C). My guess would be that you could get away with alot smaller machine. All you need to do is optimize the I/O throughput by using I/O drawers, FC HBA:s and more Gigabit Etherchannel adapters. If you have far more data than us, you would probably need to have more RAM and CPU:s(perhaps 8GB of RAM and 4 Power5 CPU:s instead of the older processors we're using). The price for that configuration would be alot lower than the one for a HACMP-based p690 cluster. The problem you will face if you start de-centralizing your environment is the amount of time you need to put on administration. This cost will, calculated over several years, be alot higher than the one for hardware. It will also be harder for you to detect minor issues, or hardware that is beginning to fail. The issue with hardware upgrades will also be a cost that should be taken in account. You will no longer be upgrading a single system, but doing hardware/software upgrades to different systems that cannot be shared among the systems. Best Regards Daniel Sparrman ----------------------------------- Daniel Sparrman Chef Utveckling & Drift Exist i Stockholm AB Propellervägen 6B 183 62 TÄBY Växel: 08 - 754 98 00 Mobil: 070 - 399 27 51 Steve Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2004-10-15 07:40 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc Subject TSM as application on windows cluster Hi all, I'm designing a TSM solution for our enterprise data centre. The EDC consists of two physical datacentres with appropriate smarts to make them appear as one big logical entity from both the SAN and LAN perspective We currently run a single TSM server on AIX which backs up a portion of the application nodes in the EDC. We don't currently have any apps that can automatically fail over, but we will have some real soon. The reason for the TSM redesign is that we are going to put TSM in many places around the state, and that includes backing up all of the enterprise datacentre rather than just the odd bits that we do now. The rest of the state will be running on windows, so we are keen to use windows in the EDC also. The configuration manager will also run in the EDC. Is anyone running TSM server as an application in a geographically spread active/active windows cluster? Did you have any issues getting this to work? Is it reliable both in normal operation and in failover? I have the option of a p690 AIX/Veritas cluster solution or Sun F15K/Veritas cluster, but both of those seem unreasonably expensive, and will move away from a Windows standard approach state wide. Any insight will be helpful. Thanks Steve. Steve Harris TSM design Guru (Ha! - faking it anyway) Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia *********************************************************************************** This email, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost, if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this email is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipient(s), or if you have received this email in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return email. You should also delete this email and destroy any hard copies produced. ***********************************************************************************