We have done the following to only allow 10 versions of system objects... Works Great!

Created a management class called SYSTEM_OBJECTS 

Then did A TSM Server Side Forced Client Option to tie the Mgmt class to the Win2K 
nodes

        Option   Override  Option Value                                                
      
        INCLEXCL Yes  INCLUDE.SYSTEMOBJECT ALL SYSTEM_OBJECTS

Just make sure whenm you register your Win2k Clients that you specified a Client 
Option Set.  

Here's out intel Clopt, we force all from Server side, so far it works well.

INTEL                                                       HARTC1                     
             

Option                     Sequence  Override  Option Value                            
                    
                             number            
-------------------------  --------  --------  
------------------------------------------------------------
INCLEXCL                          0       Yes  exclude.dir "*:\...\temporary internet 
files"               
INCLEXCL                          1       Yes  INCLUDE.SYSTEMOBJECT ALL SYSTEM_OBJECTS 
                    
INCLEXCL                          2       Yes  exclude.dir "*:\system volume 
information"                  
INCLEXCL                          3       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\Apps                     
                    
INCLEXCL                          4       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\...\NTFRS\JET            
                    
INCLEXCL                          5       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\...\NTDS"               
                    
INCLEXCL                          6       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\RECYCLED                 
                    
INCLEXCL                          7       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\RECYCLER                 
                    
INCLEXCL                          8       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\SMS                      
                    
INCLEXCL                          9       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\SMSCAP                   
                    
INCLEXCL                         10       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\...\ExchSrvr             
                    
INCLEXCL                         11       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\SOURCE                   
                    
INCLEXCL                         12       Yes  exclude.dir "*:\...\temp*"              
                    
INCLEXCL                         13       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\CPQSYSTEM                
                    
INCLEXCL                         14       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\COMPAQ                   
                    
INCLEXCL                         15       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\SMSBKUP                  
                    
INCLEXCL                         16       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\PERFLOGS                 
                    
INCLEXCL                         17       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\...\ExchSrvr"           
                    
INCLEXCL                         18       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR "*:\Documents and Settings" 
                    
INCLEXCL                         20       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR C:\I386                     
                    
INCLEXCL                         21       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR C:\WINNT                    
                    
INCLEXCL                         26       Yes  EXCLUDE "*:\...\EA DATA.SF"             
                    
INCLEXCL                         30       Yes  EXCLUDE *:\CAP_P??                      
                    
INCLEXCL                         32       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\CAP_P??                  
                    
INCLEXCL                         33       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\CAP_S??                  
                    
INCLEXCL                         34       Yes  EXCLUDE.DIR *:\CAP_Z??                  
                    




-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Bill Boyer
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 6:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Win2K SystemObjects and Backup Group Copy Frequency


I just saw a page on the TSM support site that had steps for a weekly backup
of the system object. Create a schedule with OPTION='-DOMAIN -SYSTEMOBJECT'
for the daily backup and another that does a full incremental on a weekend.
Haven't tried it, but thought it was interesting to remember.

Bill Boyer
DSS, Inc.

-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Scott McCambly
Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 9:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Win2K SystemObjects and Backup Group Copy Frequency


Hello there,

Has anyone had any experience trying to limit the number of backups of
the system state objects in Win2K?

I thought the obvious choice was to use the new "include.systemobject
ALL mgmtclass" option and set the backup copygroup in the specified
management class to have a non-zero copy frequency, but that does not
seem to have any effect.  Does any one know if that is working as
designed (I couldn't find any obvious reference to it NOT being
supported for system objects, but I might have missed something).

If it turns out that copy frequency is not supported, the is the best
approach still to just exclude it and use NTBACKUP to a flat file
periodically instead?

Any advise is much appreciated.

Scott.

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