Hi Thomas!
The problem is that these nodes all running old TDP versions and they cannot
be upgraded easily.
Anyway, TDPOSYNC wouldn't help me here either, because it only removes
objects from TSM when there are no entries for those objects in the recovery
catalog and for a lot of them there are!
Our Oracle department is now checking the recovery catalog to see how many
old backups there are.
Thanks!
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Rupp, Vorarlberger Illwerke AG
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Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2004 18:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: AW: Strange orphaned objects


Hi Eric,

I recently had a similar problem.
If you are on a recent TDPO version you can use TDPOSYNC
utility to synchronise the RMAN catalog an TSM.
But this will only help as long as the nodename/filespacename
haven't changed.
> The nodename was changed and also the Oracle filespace has changed.
Do you know the "old" nodename/filespacename?
If yes you could try
dsmc query backup "/filespace_name/*" -SUBDIR=YES -virtualn=nodename
That will give you the list of all saved Oracle files.

API 16.413.696 KB  29.01.2004 22:11:33    DEFAULT     A
/DB22//full_DB22_s3039_t516751844_p1
API 16.413.696 KB  30.01.2004 22:11:17    DEFAULT     A
/DB22//full_DB22_s3057_t516838230_p1

If you are still saving to a filespace with orphaned files you can
just rename the filespace and let TDPO create a new one. After the 
retention period (that means RMAN starts to delete old backups) you
can just drop the old filespace on TSM.

HTH
Thomas Rupp

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Loon, E.J. van - SPLXM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 04. Februar 2004 15:29
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: Strange orphaned objects


Hi Neil!
My previous solution (del object) appeared to be a too easy solution.
The old TDP backups are also present in the Oracle recovery catalog. Since
then, a lot of things changed. The nodename was changed and also the Oracle
filespace has changed.
I guess it will not be all that easy to get rid of these backups, but it's
worth trying because we talk about several gigabytes of obsolete data.
What I now want to find out is if there are more of those nodes in my TSM
environment.
The only way I could think of is to create a select statement which lists
all backups of non-oracle nodes with a ll_name of //. However, I ran that
statement on my test environment and it took almost 3 hours to finish. On my
production environment I'm afraid it will take days with all the negative
impact on the database performance.
Do you have an idea how to list these files without a select * from backups?
Thank you VERY much for your reply in advance!
Kindest regards,
Eric van Loon
KLM Royal Dutch Airlines


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