Don't you hate it when management thinks that *any* cost is too much? How about figuring out what a GFS system would cost in tapes to back up the same as you do now. Say you have a 90 day retention, that would cost say 10 daily copies + 3 weekly ones + 4 monthies or 17 full copies of the active data
You should find that TSM is more economical with two copies than GFS is with one. Point this out to the Pointy Haired manager. If that doesn't work, then point out how backups to /dev/null run so much faster and use even less tape :) Regards Steve Harris AIX and TSM Admin Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 19/09/2003 3:05:06 >>> A "little" off the subject, and I already heard Richard Simms view on not having a second copy... but what are most shops doing with respect to a second copy. I'm in a pretty large shop and upper management, in a cost savings effort, wants us to turn off the creation of a second tape copy. I'm not too comfortable with the idea. What are "your" thoughts? -----Original Message----- From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 12:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Saving data on a defective cartridge Try doing a move data to get the data off of the tape. If I find I am starting to have problems I usually do a: update vol VOLUMENAME acc=reado move data VOLUMENAME This should move all data that is recoverable from the volume to another volume in the same storage pool. I then eject the offending volume and check it for apparent physical issues. Then the part I hate: delete vol VOLUMENAME discarddata=yes Sometimes I am able to re-label the volume and use it again. But typically it gets moved to a less critical use, returned to the vendor for a new tape [my preferred method], or degaused and distroyed by a certified vendor [least preferred, paying to have it thrown away]. If anyone has a better method, please let me know! ... JC -----Original Message----- From: Gerhard Rentschler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 11:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Saving data on a defective cartridge Hello, I forgot to mention that because of lack of resources I can't afford a copypool for the backup files. I have one for the archives. Best regards Gerhard --- Gerhard Rentschler email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Regional Computing Center tel. ++49/711/685 5806 University of Stuttgart fax: ++49/711/682357 Allmandring 30a D 70550 Stuttgart Germany > -----Original Message----- > From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Juan Manuel Lopez Azanon > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:02 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Saving data on a defective cartridge > > > Disaster recovery management: Restore it from outside volumes from copy > stgpool > *********************************************************************************** This email, including any attachments sent with it, is confidential and for the sole use of the intended recipients(s). This confidentiality is not waived or lost, if you receive it and you are not the intended recipient(s), or if it is transmitted/received in error. Any unauthorised use, alteration, disclosure, distribution or review of this email is prohibited. It may be subject to a statutory duty of confidentiality if it relates to health service matters. If you are not the intended recipients(s), or if you have received this e-mail in error, you are asked to immediately notify the sender by telephone or by return e-mail. You should also delete this e-mail message and destroy any hard copies produced. ***********************************************************************************