I agree- we have tried to run unload/load DB and audit DB to either conserve
space or cleanup the database and found in both cases that the time required
(we have 100 GB databases) was not worth the effort. R.Sims comments on this
make sense too, since DB space is random, however we still face 1.3 hours
for DBS backup daily--

It would certainly be nice to shrink the overall daily timeframes down with
an advanced DB backup function above and beyond the full+incremental
variants that we use today- wouldn't it be cool to have multi-session DB
backups that allow you to backup/restore the DB to/from multiple volumes at
once like DB2 or UDBEEE.....

Also- a DB merge utility would be brilliant- where someday in the future if
you loose one TSM server(failure,scheduled maintenance, disasters), the
other TSM server instance could still access it's data stores (like a big
parallel database setup where any instance can get to any data...).

Ok- 'time to pass the crack pipe....


John



From: Zlatko Krastev/ACIT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Auditdb timing - FYI
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 11:25:38 +0300

rhetorical answer to a rhetorical question:
I am under impression that TSM DB and DB2 are some sort of cousins -
derived from same SQL/370 design or code. Thus the answer to your question
might be "when TSM DB is going to catch up with recent improvements on
DB2/Informix front".
I still remember (and can find in my archives) the Roger's post on the
thread "rollforward vs. normal mode" nearly a year ago. TDP for TSM is not
so silly as it sounds. But if an add-on product is developed allowing
multi-stream TSM DB backups/restores and better access to DB contents for
queries, it might be sold separately as DRM was in v4.2 and before
(regardless the name).
Wake up IBM/Tivoli Marketing, developers and support are good but you have
to be inventive too. And better not by changing licensing schema on each
version or changing prices every quarter.

Zlatko Krastev
IT Consultant






Fred Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 06.06.2003 22:08 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"


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My real question, rhetorical of course, is when is TIVOLI going to supply
us with a tool kit for identifying and working thru  DB problems?  Why do
I
have to write some code to identify an object in the DB?  Why are there no
functions available to do this?

Wouldn't it be nice if V5R3 or V6R1, whichever comes first, were devoted
to
the care and feeding of the TSM DB.

My $.02 anyway.

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