See my comments inline. You can search www.adsm.org for messages on this subject. Use the keyword "CLEANUP".
Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -----Original Message----- From: Matt Simpson [mailto:msimpson@;UKY.EDU] Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:33 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cleanup Backgroups and upgrade 4.2.2.0 to ?? I'm still trying to piece together all the snippets of information I've gathered here to try to figure out what our plan of action should be. We're running TSM Server 4.2.2.0 on Solaris. General consensus seems to be that 4.2.2.0 is not a good place to be. We have Windows clients, so i assume there's a good probability that we have the problem with orphan system objects that has been described here. Our database has grown larger faster than we expected, but I don't know if that's due to the system objects problem or just normal growth. At 4.2.2.0, we don't have the Cleanup Backupgroups function. Should we go to 4.2.3? Or 5.1.something? ** The latest recommendation I have heard from support is to do the cleanup backupgroups first. 4.2.3 supposedly requires an upgrade db. I cannot say go to that release so quickly, but there is still one bug in the 4.2.2.13 cleanup backupgroups function that most customers hit. I think I read something here indicating that upgrading a DB to 5.1 might fail unless the Cleanup was run first. but I haven't been able to find that message again in the archives. Do we have to go to 4.2.3 so we can do a cleanup before going to 5.1.? Or can we go straight to 5.1.? and then run the Cleanup? ** Gretchen has published some of the pain of doing this, but 5.1.5.1 may be good enough. Gretchen thinks not. She believes problems have been reintroduced. What we did was got a special patch to 4.2.2.13, ran that for just the cleanup backup groups when we hit the error condition that showed on 4.2.2.12 and then reverted back to 4.2.2.12 only because we run Storage Agents and they must match on release down to the patch level now. I also saw a message suggesting that maybe the system objects bug had returned in 5.1.5.1, but haven't seen any more discussion about that. ** Gretchen will come up for air at some point and let us know. Any advice or horror stories would be muchly appreciated. The longer you wait the worse the problem gets. -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 <mailto:msimpson@;uky.edu> mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.