Matt, you got it right - there is a problem with SystemObject expiration introduced in v4.2.2 and you have to run CLEANUP BACKUPGROUP to prevent enourmous high space usage in DB and storage pool. This applies if you have many W2k nodes backing up to TSM. It would last until you upgrade to a version without the bug. It is expected in v4.2.3 the bug to be fixed. So without upgrade (in far future) to v5.1.x you still can apply v4.2.3 (or later) maintenance.
Without additional information I cannot be sure this is your only problem leading to 100% DB full. It might be somehwhere else - for example expiration not running at all. Compare output of 'q fi' and 'q occ' - is the ratio higher than number of copies to be kept by default classes. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Matt Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 14.10.2002 17:52 Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: Re: cleanup backupgroups I'm a newcomer to this list, and a newcomer to TSM. So there's a very good chance that I'm totally confused. I'm catching the tail end of this cleanup backupgroups discussion, and I need some clarification. I think I'm reading that there's a problem in 4.2.2.x versions of TSM which causes SYSTEM OBJECTS not to expire, requiring the CLEANUP BACKUPGROUPS. I've seen some messages that indicate the cleanup needs to run after conversion to 5.1. We're running TSM 4.2.2.0 on Solaris. We hope to upgrade to 5.1 sometime, but probably not soon. While we're still on 4.2.2.0, do we need to do this cleanup regularly? We recently had a problem with TSM coming to a screeching halt after our database got 100% full, and we're not sure why a database that was supposedly way bigger than we would ever need has filled up before we've even got half our backups on it. Is it possible that this systems objects problem is contributing to our db size problem? -- Matt Simpson -- OS/390 Support 219 McVey Hall -- (859) 257-2900 x300 University Of Kentucky, Lexington, KY 40506 <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> mainframe -- An obsolete device still used by thousands of obsolete companies serving billions of obsolete customers and making huge obsolete profits for their obsolete shareholders. And this year's run twice as fast as last year's.