The issue is actually more complex for IBM/Tivoli. They typically do not implement solutions that have potential integrity issues and they are targeted toward enterprise recoveries in case of a disaster.
Unfortunately, none of the Disaster Recovery providers recommend BMR because of HAL issues in the windows world and it being much easier to guarantee a successful recovery for UNIX systems by restoring to an alternate drive and booting. What the DR providers do like is the mksysb of AIX. That is a great tool. Tivoli does recognize the fact that customers must have a bare metal recovery to identical hardware for windows. I do not know when, but they will eventually have a solution for this. I believe this is the convenience case. If you are a business partner, you should be making the business lost case to Tivoli because of the missing BMR capability. I encourage all business partners to make that plea with supporting documentation to Tivoli. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 11:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BareMetalRestore There is a problem: all other software, like Brightstor and Netbackup support this function. Since the windows users are getting more, we cannot ignore the requests from them. I lose about 4 case which Brightstor and Netbackup take these case because of the lack of this function. TSM is a very good solution, but is still not a complet solution. People do not think about the disaster and disaster recovery, they just think of convinient, especially they spend lots of money to build a solution. Mephi Liu -----Original Message----- From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 5:07 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: BareMetalRestore IBM is the only company that provides this capability for its operating systems. Standalone restore on the mainframe, mksysb on AIX. These are included free with the OS. This is a OS vendor issue. They simply do not recognize the benefits of the capability and are not focused on SAR because they do not see it as a problem. The place that Tivoli needs to step in is make things like mksysb integrated as a special backup capability that and manage the associated media and provide a boot strap wrapper to invoke the native system's capability if the are ever created. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon Inc. 757-688-8180 -----Original Message----- From: Gill, Geoffrey L. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 2:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: BareMetalRestore There has been a lot of discussion on bare metal restore with TSM and other products. It seems we're all held hostage to purchase expensive products that have this capability. Unfortunately in times like this we've all had our budgets cut, at least I have, and would like our software vendors, IBM/TIVOLI in this case, to make their products more robust. After all we do send them maintenance money for software updates and expect the product to get better. I'm just wondering how serious IBM is about getting TSM to "WORK" with the various OS software vendors, i.e. Microsoft, HP, Compaq, Sun and the like, to find out what it takes to get it's product to do bare metal restores. If TKG could make it work why can't IBM? Or don't these guys talk to each other? My little rant for the day!!!!! Geoff Gill TSM Administrator NT Systems Support Engineer SAIC E-Mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: (858) 826-4062 Pager: (877) 905-7154