I don't think the TDPOSYNC is for regular deletes.  That's used
only for cases where the RMAN catalog doesn't have the file/object
anymore but TSM server still does.  (RMAN doesn't use good handshaking
and therefore gets in this condition).  The TDPOSYNC is used to display
a list of files in this condition for you to manually delete.

The normal deletes are done by RMAN scripts.

David Longo

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Thanks Eric!  That is exactly what I needed.  My question now is whether
anyone has this process automated.  Can I have the client or the server
automate the process to expire the backups?

Rob Schroeder
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Once the objects are deleted in RMAN, then you will need to run a TDPOSYNC
<tdposync syncdb -tdpo_optfile=[optfile name]> and that will sync the RMAN
catalog and TSM database and expire the files on your TSM Server

Eric W. Cowperthwaite
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Theresa,

all Oracle backup objects are unique so there won't be any inactive
versions
which you can expire via TSM. You have to expire them "manually" with an
RMAN script doing a RMAN report obsolete first to find all no longer needed
Oracle backups and them doing a RMAN delete on these objects.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen / With kind regards,
Holger Speh

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Hello;

I've been searching the archives on this subject all morning and I just
want
to double-check my findings.

Environment:
SP Model 9076 (1 Frame w/ 7 nodes)
AIX 4.3.3 ML8
P.S.S.P 3.2
ptfset 8
TSM 4.1.5
ORACLE 8.1.7/RMAN
TDP for Oracle v2.1.1 (I think?)

The DBA's have only been using TDP/RMAN for a few months now and around
July
10 they decided to start exprining some old backups.  I noticed yesterday,
that the copy group had been setup improperly for TDP_Oracle:

STANDARD  ACTIVE    RMANCLASS STANDARD         1        1       0       1
STANDARD  STANDARD  RMANCLASS STANDARD         1        1        0       1

I modified the appropriate parameters last night (using TDP for Ocacle
Admin
Guide) and think it's right now:

STANDARD  ACTIVE    RMANCLASS STANDARD         1        0        0       0
STANDARD  STANDARD  RMANCLASS STANDARD         1        0        0       0

I ran 'expire inventory' shortly thereafter, this however did not remove
any
of the inactive databases:
/adsmorc : // cold_TESTR_1631_270302_22_1 (MC: DEFAULT)
Inactive, Inserted 03/27/02 16:32:19, Deactivated 07/10/02 15:18:10
ObjId: 0.58797993

So, from what I've read I have 3 options:
1)  run some "delete object 0 xxxxxx" command  (Could someone please
provide
me with any further information on this command?)
2)  Create a new filespace, then delete the old one after several days
3)  Using a TDPOSYNC command...depending on version.  Anyone know if 2.1.1
supports the use of this command? - Can't find any reference in the TDP for
Oracle Manuel.

Thanks 'yet again' for your help;
Theresa
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