Gordon,

DRM will not vault primary pool or backupset media.  An alternative product,
AutoVault, has primary pool and backupset vaulting for precisely what you
are trying to accomplish.  For specific situations, it is a very efficient
way to retain data long-term without the need to duplicate the data or fill
your tape library.  The one risk is that you will not have a second copy of
the data to recover from media failure.

Using AutoVault, you would direct your archive data to a separate primary
pool hierarchy.  It sounds like all your TSM data is archives, so you may
not have a need for an incremental backup primary pool hierarchy and a
copypool.  Configure AutoVault to vault your archive tape primary pool.  It
will eject the media from your library and generate a report of what media
to take offsite.  It will also generate a report of empty tapes to return
from the vault.

Many of our customers are effectively using this technique for archive data,
backupsets, and TDP (database backup) data.  More information is available
at:  http://www.coderelief.com/tdp.htm

Regards,

Steve Hnath
Code Relief LLC
www.coderelief.com

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Re: Offsite Archives & DRM
 Forum:   ADSM.ORG - ADSM / TSM Mailing List Archive
 Date:      Jul 25, 14:25
 From:      Seay, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

This is certainly an alternative solution that should be consider if not the
first choice at least the second.  I had closed my mind that he only wanted
to send primary tapes offsite.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-----Original Message-----
From: Jolliff, Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Offsite Archives & DRM


Why not just assign an overflow location then do a move media? You have to
keep track of the tape movement manually, but at least the checkout part is
simplified.


-----Original Message-----
From: Seay, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 12:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Offsite Archives & DRM


The answer to your question is a qualified no because I cannot think of a
way to safely do it.

The concept of a copy pool is to be able to protect the data in two
locations.  And DRM is the vehicle to support that.  What you really are
trying to do is a archive using primary copy pool tapes which is not what
TSM was designed to do.

As I see it you only have one choice here.  You will have to roll your own
tape movement thing.  With primary tapes you have to mark them to
unavailable using an UPDATE VOLUME vvvvvv ACCESS=UNAVAILABLE.  You can
probably create a SELECT statement that meets your criteria to create the
command as follows:

Select 'UPDATE VOLUME ', volume_name, 'ACCESS=UNAVAILABLE' from volumes
where stgpool_name='TAPEARCH' and volume_name in (select volume_name from
libvolumes) > /mark.cmd

This gives you all the tapes in your library that are in the storage pool.

Run this output as a macro command after striping off the first 2 lines.

Then do another select:

Select 'CHECKOUT LIBVOLUME ', library_name, volume_name, 'other appropriate
parameters' from libvolumes where  volume_name in (select volume_name from
volumes where access='UNAVAILABLE') > /eject.cmd

Run this the same way as above.

At this point the tapes should be checked out of your library and TSM should
not try to do anything with them.

Now, I have not tried this so you will have to do some significant testing.
There may be something I did not consider.

The real negative piece here is you have to manage what expires and is ready
to be put back in the library.

Paul D. Seay, Jr.
Technical Specialist
Naptheon Inc.
757-688-8180


-----Original Message-----
From: Gordon Woodward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 2:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Offsite Archives & DRM


This is a follow up to a post I sent through the other day about problems
with offsite tapes we were having and TSM (for NT) not allowing anymore
tapes to be loaded into the library.

I've been reading the TSM Admin Guide today about DRM and copy storage pools
and I think have found the solution to ours problems, however I would like
to run it by some more knowledgable people. First I'll give a quick overview
how our archives are currently working, I should also mention that these are
really 'snapshots' of existing data on our servers and not actually removing
any data from their locations.

Once a month we have a scheduled job execute on our Tivoli server which runs
the command "dsmc archive....etc" on each of our servers. As the server
backs up the data to the Tivoli server it is temporarily stored in a disk
storage pool (ARCHIVE) on our SAN, then as this disk storage pool fills up
the data starts to automatically migrate across to another storage pool of
type sequential access (called TAPEARCH). The next morning a scheduled job
runs which migrates the remaining data held within the disk storage pool
across to the sequential access storage pool, or some LTO tapes as it were.
We were then checking the tapes out that belonged to this sequential access
storage pool, which as it turn out is also a primary storage pool.

Reading through DRM it will only recognise media (data) associated with copy
storage pools, so my line of thought now is that I need to somehow convert
the sequential access storage pool (TAPEARCH) from a primary pool to a copy
pool. My problem now is is that we don't want to retain any copies of this
archive data in our Tivoli library, if I am understanding correctly how copy
storage pools work, we only want to refer to these tapes for the data stored
if ever these was the need restore from them. Is there a way to configure
TSM so we can move the data to a copy storage pool to use with DRM without
having to also retain copies of this same data within the library system on
another bunch of LTO tapes?


Gordon Woodward
Senior Support Analyst
Deustche Asset Management (Australia) Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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