I would wait if I had it to do over again and get the DB cleared up prior to
upgrade.
I do have it on fairly good authority that 4.2.2.6 will be out Real Soon
Now.

The corruption we have is something to do with the backups table (or at
least whatever keeps track of the backups) we can see some nodes filesystems
in occupancy, but not filespaces, and some the other way round.   We also
have huge amounts of duplicate archive directories from nodes that insist on
archiving zillions of files, one file at a time. Most of these nodes all ran
the 3.1.x series of clients at one point or another which is where most of
the duplicates came from.
The DB is over 76GB at 90% capacity (and we are out of disk - tomorrow, we
start breaking mirrors), and takes over 3 hours to do a db backup on a
*really* good day.

I would like to do a db audit, but I'm barely keeping ahead of the lynch mob
as it is ;)



-----Original Message-----
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We are currently testing version 4.2.2.2. Of course this is done on a very
small basis so its hard to bump in to these problems. My production db is
18gb. Should I wait
until this is solved before leaving version 4.1.3 which has been very good
to me the past year and a half?

When you talk abour corruption, what kind was it. I have some ANR9999D
messages that pop up here and there and support has told me to do an audit
db. This is very hard to
schedule in my environnement since we have oracle, db2 and notes
apllications logging all through the day. I must say that Beat Largo's
message has made me more confident
about the duration of an audit. I might be able to squeeze it in an 8 hour
window.

Guillaume Gilbert
CGI Canada




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The corruption was in the DB before the upgrade.
There is a bad lock contention problem when running expiration with
4.2.2.0-4.
(4.2.2.4 did mitigate the problem some but didn't solve it)

We had symptoms prior to the upgrade, since the upgrade to 4.2.2 we have
been crashing on a regular basis.

I just shipped off a core dump, activity log and output from a lot of show
commands this morning to level 2 that showed an expiration process hanging
and the scheduler manager crashing.


It's not pretty, and I wouldn't go there if I didn't have to.

Again, YMMV - I may just be one unlucky S.O.B.




-----Original Message-----
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Dale,

Thanks for the info.

The majority of the work will be completed by the CE under the NSM agreement
but I was told there will need to be some housekeeping tasks that we need to
do anyway.  We'll be prepared for that and make sure that everything is
checked and documented.

What sort of problems did you encounter with the database corruption?  Our
TSM databases are between 70 and 110GB so database corruption is somewhat of
a concern to us.

Regards

Rizwan




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Our NSM support contract calls for a CE onsite to do all upgrades of that
nature.
We went directly to 4.2.20 and AIX 5.1 with EC 17.

Aside from that, immediately after the upgrade, apply OS patch 5100-02
immediately.
It's a big one, 600+ MB.  From the looks of it, it affects almost every
fileset in the OS.
It fixes some duplicate IP address errors you'll see in errpt.

After than, double check your NIC settings - if you do not do
auto-negotiation on the link, you'll need to reset it.

If I had it to do over again, I think I would stay with something earlier
than 4.2.2 - there are some serious locking issues that some corruption in
our DB has made almost unbearable for us.

YMMV, of course.




-----Original Message-----
From: Shamim, Rizwan (London) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:00 AM
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Hello,

Is there anyone out there that has upgraded their NSM's to TSM version
4.2.1.9?

The upgrade procedure will also include an AIX upgrade to 5.1 (currently
4.3.3).  As the NSM's are black boxes the upgrade involves a mksysb restore
(upgrade) and customisation to be carried out by ourselves.  In total the
outage is approximately 9 hours.

I'd like to hear from anyone who has attempted this.

Regards


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