Hi Denis,
I'm glad to hear that the binding issue is straightened out.
About mixing UNIX- and Windows-style file name patterns: I know that the
NT client would not like the UNIX-style file name pattern, and would issue
a "pattern compilation failed" error message. I would expect the UNIX
clients to behave similarly when encountering Windows-style file name
patterns, but I do not know for sure. Aside from the error message (which
does not otherwise prevent client operations), I do not know what other
problems you might encounter. In general, I would not recommend trying to
put an option in a client options set that you could not put in a client's
options file (the Windows client will not even start if you put the
UNIX-style pattern in dsm.opt). Rather, you should have separate client
options sets for different platforms.
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
"Denis L'Huillier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
03/12/2002 10:37
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject: Re: Clientoption Sets not binding proberly to a management
class
--Again--
Andy,
Thank you very much.. That was it.. I defined the option with double and
single quotes.
I redefined it and now it works.
I have one more question...
I was going to create this one option set for all servers in the Harris
domain. NT and UNIX.
Is this okay? Is there any problems with having an inclexcl for a NT
server and an inclexcl
for a UNIX server in the same client option set? For example
INCLEXCL 10 No include
/web/prod/web_logs/.../* 8YR_CLASS
INCLEXCL 11 No include D:
\web\prod\web_logs\...\* 8YR_CLASS
Again... Thanks!
Regards,
Denis L. L'Huiller
973-360-7739
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enterprise Storage Forms ->
http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html
Andrew
Raibeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:
BM.COM> Subject: Re: Clientoption
Sets not binding proberly to a management
Sent by: class --Again--
"ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RIST.EDU>
03/12/2002
12:04 PM
Please
respond to
"ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager"
Hi Denis,
I didn't notice this initially, though it is there in your inital post. I
believe that the trouble is in the syntax used to define the INCLEXCL
option, as you enclosed the file specification and management class name
in double quotes.
At a guess, I would say you defined the client options something like
this:
define clientopt harris_opt inclexcl
'include "/web/prod/web_logs/.../* 8YR_CLASS"'
... putting single quotes around the entire INCLUDE parameter and double
quotes around the file spec and management class name. as a result, the
entire double-quoted string is being treated like a file spec with a space
in it, as opposed to a file spec and management class. You can tell by the
QUERY INCLEXCL output, which shows the management class name as part of
the pattern (normally the QUERY INCLEXCL does not show the management
class names).
You should delete both of those statements and instead just put quotes
around the entire INCLUDE statement, but nowhere in between, like this:
define clientopt harris_opt inclexcl
"include /web/prod/web_logs/.../* 8YR_CLASS"
Verify the results with QUERY INCLEXCL, which should not show the
management class name. Then try the backups again.
A couple of other points:
1) The /web/prod/web_logs/* file spec is redundant, as it is a subset of
/web/prod/web_logs/.../*. So one pattern should cover what you want.
2) Be careful about using DIRMC. If you set DIRMC to a management class
whose backup copy group has a RETONLY setting lower than that of the
8YR_CLASS copy group, then you may not be able to restore inactive
versions of directories that are part of the /web/prod/web_logs structure,
as they will expire when the smaller RETONLY criteria is met. This won't
prevent you from restoring the files, but (a) you may need to use the
command line interface to restore the files since the GUI depends on the
directory structure backups also being present, and (b) the directories
will only be recreated, not restored. This may or may not be important to
you, but I just wanted to point out the caveats associated with using
RETONLY.
If you need to keep backups for 8 years, archive might be the better way
to go (?).
Alternatively, use one node name to back up the files that really need 8
year *backup* retention, and another node name to back up files that don't
require such lengthy retention.
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
"Denis L'Huillier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
03/12/2002 09:08
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject: Re: Clientoption Sets not binding proberly to a
management class
--Again--
Andy,
Thanks for your response...
My TSM Server is AIX 4.3.3 running TSM 4.1.2.0
My TSM Client is HP-UX 11.0 running TSM 4.2.0
And yes... 8YR_CLASS has the highest retonly setting.
I guess I can overide that with a DIRMC include statement.
The node is associated with the options set. Verified via q node f=d
The option set below is the complete option set.
However, I am using an include/exclude file on the client.
Here it is:
# cat adsm.bkuplist
Exclude /.../core
Exclude /tmp_mnt/.../*
Exclude /tmp/.../*
Include /mxp/.../* 3YR_CLASS
Here's the outputs you requested... (I also attached it to a word doc for
readability)
tsm> q inclexcl
Node Name: PERF01
Session established with server TSM_C01: AIX-RS/6000
Server Version 4, Release 1, Level 2.0
Server date/time: 03/12/02 10:53:50 Last access: 03/12/02 10:48:55
*** FILE INCLUDE/EXCLUDE ***
Mode Function Pattern (match from top down) Source File
---- --------- ------------------------------ -----------------
No exclude filespace statements defined.
No exclude directory statements defined.
Incl All /web/prod/web_logs/* 8YR_CLASS Server
Incl All /web/prod/web_logs/.../* 8YR_CLASS Server
Incl All /mxp/.../*
/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/adsm.bkuplist
Excl All /tmp/.../*
/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/adsm.bkuplist
Excl All /tmp_mnt/.../*
/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/adsm.bkuplist
Excl All /.../core
/opt/tivoli/tsm/client/ba/bin/adsm.bkuplist
No DFS include/exclude statements defined.
tsm>
tsm: TSM_C01>q node perf01 f=d
Node Name: PERF01
Platform: HPUX
Client OS Level: B.11.00
Client Version: Version 4, Release 2, Level 0.0
Policy Domain Name: HARRIS
Last Access Date/Time: 03/12/02 10:53:50
Days Since Last Access: <1
Password Set Date/Time: 06/20/01 12:21:25
Days Since Password Set: 265
Invalid Sign-on Count: 0
Locked?: No
Contact:
Compression: Client
Archive Delete Allowed?: Yes
Backup Delete Allowed?: No
Registration Date/Time: 06/20/01 12:21:25
Registering Administrator: DENISL
Last Communication Method Used: Tcp/Ip
Bytes Received Last Session: 231
Bytes Sent Last Session: 1,340
Duration of Last Session: 16.25
Pct. Idle Wait Last Session: 99.91
Pct. Comm. Wait Last Session: 0.00
Pct. Media Wait Last Session: 0.00
Optionset: HARRIS_OPT
URL:
Node Type: Client
Password Expiration Period:
Keep Mount Point?: No
Maximum Mount Points Allowed: 1
tsm: TSM_C01>q clopt harris_opt
Optionset Description Last Update by
Managing profile
(administrator)
------------------------- ------------------------- ---------------
--------------------
HARRIS_OPT Client Option for Harris DENISL
Direct
Option Sequence Override Option Value
number
------------------------- -------- --------
------------------------------------------------------------
INCLEXCL 10 Yes include
"/web/prod/web_logs/.../* 8YR_CLASS"
INCLEXCL 11 No include
"/web/prod/web_logs/* 8YR_CLASS"
(See attached file: optionsetprob.doc)
Regards,
Denis L. L'Huiller
973-360-7739
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enterprise Storage Forms ->
http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html
Andrew
Raibeck To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc:
BM.COM> Subject: Re: Clientoption
Sets not binding proberly to a management
Sent by: class --Again--
"ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RIST.EDU>
03/12/2002
09:55 AM
Please
respond to
"ADSM: Dist
Stor Manager"
INCLUDE and EXCLUDE (without any '.' extensions) affect binding of files
only, not directories. If your directories are being bound to 8YR_CLASS,
then it is either because you have a DIRMC statement that specifies this
class, or it happens to be the class with the longest RETONLY setting.
Some questions:
1) What versions of TSM are you running on the TSM client and the TSM
server?
2) Is the client options set associated with the specific node name? Issue
QUERY NODE with the F=D option for the node name in question to confirm
that this is the case.
3) What does the complete client options set look like? I'm not sure if
you have provided the entire set or just an extract.
4) Do you have an include-exclude file for the client node? What does it
look like?
5) From the client machine, what is the output from this command:
QUERY INCLEXCL
Regards,
Andy
Andy Raibeck
IBM Software Group
Tivoli Storage Manager Client Development
Internal Notes e-mail: Andrew Raibeck/Tucson/IBM@IBMUS
Internet e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The only dumb question is the one that goes unasked.
The command line is your friend.
"Good enough" is the enemy of excellence.
"Denis L'Huillier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
03/12/2002 07:31
Please respond to "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager"
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject: Clientoption Sets not binding proberly to a
management class --Again--
Due to lack of overwhelming response (0) I'm gonna send this again...
Please help if you can..
Hello,
I'm having trouble using client option sets.
I want to bind all files in the "/web/prod/web_logs" directory on a unix
server to a specific
management class called "8YR_CLASS". When I do a backup all Directories
are binding to this
8YR_CLASS but the files are going to the default mgm class.
I must be missing something here...
This is my clientopt...
Option Sequence Override Option Value
number
------------------------- -------- --------
------------------------------------------------------------
INCLEXCL 10 Yes include
"/web/prod/web_logs/.../* 8YR_CLASS"
INCLEXCL 11 No include
"/web/prod/web_logs/* 8YR_CLASS"
This is the output from ls -lR for the /web directory just to give you an
idea of what files I'm testing with..
# ls -lR /web
total 0
drwxrwxrwx 3 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:01 prod
/web/prod:
total 0
drwxrwxrwx 5 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:02 web_logs
/web/prod/web_logs:
total 0
drwxrwxrwx 2 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:03 anotherdir
drwxrwxrwx 2 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:03 denis
drwxrwxrwx 2 root sys 96 Feb 28 10:03 testing
/web/prod/web_logs/anotherdir:
total 2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 107 Feb 28 10:03 node1
/web/prod/web_logs/denis:
total 2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 39 Feb 28 10:03 node1
/web/prod/web_logs/testing:
total 2
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root sys 105 Feb 28 10:03
testingfileforTSMbackup
#
This is the result of a q backup from the client...
tsm> q backup "/web/*" -subdir=yes
Size Backup Date Mgmt Class A/I File
---- ----------- ---------- --- ----
96 02/28/02 10:28:01 8YR_CLASS A /web/prod
96 02/28/02 10:28:01 8YR_CLASS A /web/prod/web_logs
96 02/28/02 10:28:01 8YR_CLASS A
/web/prod/web_logs/anotherdir
96 02/28/02 10:28:01 8YR_CLASS A
/web/prod/web_logs/denis
96 02/28/02 10:28:01 8YR_CLASS A
/web/prod/web_logs/testing
107 02/28/02 10:28:01 DEFAULT A
/web/prod/web_logs/anotherdir/node1
39 02/28/02 10:28:01 DEFAULT A
/web/prod/web_logs/denis/node1
105 02/28/02 10:28:01 DEFAULT A
/web/prod/web_logs/testing/testingfileforTSMbackup
tsm>
Only the directories are binding to the 8YR_CLASS... I want the files to
bind, not the directories..
Any help would be greatly appreciated..
Regards,
Denis L. L'Huiller
973-360-7739
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Enterprise Storage Forms ->
http://admpwb01/misc/misc/storage_forms_main.html
#### optionsetprob.doc has been removed from this note on March 12 2002 by
Andrew Raibeck
