That's it, alright!  That APAR was from ADSM 2.1 closed in July
1997!!  I guess the fix is on the "back burner".

David Longo

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Yep, it is a design flaw!

Apar IC15925 describes this issue.
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ERROR DESCRIPTION
During an offsite reclamation process; where files are being
transfered from disk to tape.  ADSM fails to group the files
together into transaction groups.  Instead the files are
processed sequentially.  Hence a file will be reclaimed and
committed before the next file will be process.
ADSM needs to honor the movebatchsize and movesizethresh options
in the server options file, so that the files will be grouped
together properly for reclimation.
As a note, this problem will only be seen where off-site
reclamation is occuring from disk to tape.
COMMENTS:
After taking a very close look at the solution for this APAR,
it was determined that the code needed for this performance
enhancement is significant because it requires a restructure
in the offsite reclamation transaction processing.  A
requirement can be taken to include this performance
improvement in the next release or version.
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I have submitted a design request - and actually had a TSM developer call me
asking for details  on this last September.  I haven't heard anything since
so I'm thinking they are not persuing it!

Please submit your reqests for a design change - perhaps if enough people
ask ...

Tim Rushforth
City of Winnipeg

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From: David Longo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: Slow Reclamation from disk


I have old TSM server 3.7.4.0 on AIX 4.3.3 with 3575-L32 library with
C-XL drives.  New server is TSM 4.2.1.9 on AIX 4.3.3 ML09 and
IBM 3584-L32 library with 8 FC-AL drives.

Having the 3584 running for about 6 weeks now, I see what some of
the talk about slownes in the last year actually is.  On BOTH TSM
systems there is slowness in offsite tape reclamation WHEN some
of the files being reclaimed are still on the Disk stgpool.

When tape reclamation starts, it figures out which tapes to reclaim and
where the data is - understand.  Then when it actually starts it
will copy files that are STILL in disk stgpool first before files that
are only on tape - makes sense.  Then move to files that are only on
tape.  However, when it is copying files from disk it is MUCH slower
than when copying from tape - I would say 10 times slower.

But when doing a MIGRATION disk to tape or BACKUP STGPOOL
fromdisk to tape on either system, it's like going from idle to 4th gear!
This slownes can happen on  thses system when there is NO OTHER
ACTIVITY but this single reclamation.

Having two different systems to compare at the same time seems
to indicate that this is NOT a disk problem or a tape problem (except
that the 3584 may not handle it quite as well).  Also our old system
tended to have disk pool emptier when reclaimation started and this
wasn't really noticed on that system until  I started paying close
attention.

I again point out that my 3584 really smokes when doing everything
else BUT reclamation from disk to tape.  So does the 3575 - relatively
speaking.

(My 3584 library is library F/W 2360 and drives are 18N2 as delivered,
I don't think this is problem but included for completeness).

It seems that this is some inherent Tivoli design flaw/feature in the
RECLAMATION process.  Anyone with detail  knowledge of
Reclamation can provide some insite?  Andy Raibeck?

Thanks,


David B. Longo
System Administrator
Health First, Inc.
3300 Fiske Blvd.
Rockledge, FL 32955-4305
PH      321.434.5536
Pager  321.634.8230
Fax:    321.434.5525
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