I'm not sure if this will answer all your questions, but marking a tape as
"destroyed" changes only one thing:  it tells TSM the tape can't be mounted
any more.  It does NOT remove any of the backed up files on the tape from
the DB.

PROOF:
When you are working onsite, if you mark a tape as DESTROYED, you can go
back and change it to READWRITE again, and keep using as though nothing
happened.  THAT MEANS ALL THE DATA IS STILL IN THE DB.

So,

1) If someone tries to restore a file on a "Destroyed" tape, TSM will try to
mount the copy pool tape instead (unless it is marked OFFSITE)
2) The primary tape volumes will still show up in your storage pool
3) The backed up data will still show up in all the occupancy counts.
4) The tapes should still show up as PRIVATE in the libary.

The DB entries for the primary copy of the backed up files do NOT go away
until you either: 1) do DELETE VOLUME w/ DISCARD DATA, which you should NOT
do because it destroys the pointers to the files in the COPY POOL, or 2)  do
a RESTORE STGPOOL.  That just means the primary files MOVE from the tapes
back to somewhere else  (which may account for one of your tapes going back
to SCRATCH.).


Hope that helps some...
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The Johns Hopkins Applied Physics Lab
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-----Original Message-----
From: wouter-v [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 3:37 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DR volumes : problems / difficulties


Hello,

Now I really don't understand TSM anymore !

Look at this DR situtation :

   - DB is restored ("after the complete library has been destroyed")
   - Remove definitions of scratch volumes (they aren't in the lib anymore)
   - Remove definitions of cleaning volumes
   - Change access of primary tape pool(s), in my case PTAPE_POOL to
destroyed
   - checkin new tapes as scratch volumes
   - Checkin offsite copy
   - double the maxscratch value of ptape_pool (from 5 to 10), all allowed
(5)
scratch tapes were used before
   - do a restore stgpool of ptape_pool from offsite_2
   - restore OK
But :

question 1:

  All 5 tapes in accessstate "destroyed" are not known anymore in
storagepool
  ptape_pool , but q stg still shows the double capacity ??  Who can explain
  this ?

These are the new volumes : OK

  tsm: VCR-TSM1>q vol * stgpool=ptape_pool
Session established with server VCR-TSM1: AIX-RS/6000
  Server Version 4, Release 2, Level 0.0
  Server date/time: 08/29/01   09:17:15  Last access: 08/29/01   08:52:45


Volume Name               Storage      Device      Estimated    Pct   Volume
                          Pool Name    Class Name   Capacity   Util   Status
                                                        (MB)
------------------------  -----------  ----------  ---------  -----
--------
745ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0    3.1  Filling
746ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0    6.5  Filling
747ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0   18.8  Filling
748ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0    2.8  Filling
749ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0    2.7  Filling


(capacity of destroyed tapes is still included ???)
5 x 200 = 1000, q stg shows 2000 ??

tsm: VCR-TSM1>q stg ptape_pool

Storage      Device       Estimated    Pct    Pct  High  Low  Next
Pool Name    Class Name    Capacity   Util   Migr   Mig  Mig  Storage
                               (MB)                 Pct  Pct  Pool
-----------  ----------  ----------  -----  -----  ----  ---  -----------
PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  2,000,000.    3.4   50.0   100    0
                                  0

Question 2 :

tsm: VCR-TSM1>q libvol

Library Name   Volume Name   Status       Owner        Last Use    Home
Element
------------   -----------   ----------   ----------   ---------
------------
LTOLIB         723ACA        Private                               4,097
LTOLIB         745ACA        Private                   Data        4,104
LTOLIB         746ACA        Private                   Data        4,106
LTOLIB         747ACA        Private                   Data        4,111
LTOLIB         748ACA        Private                   Data        4,112
LTOLIB         749ACA        Private                   Data        4,113
LTOLIB         753ACA        Scratch                               4,105
LTOLIB         754ACA        Private                   Data        4,114
LTOLIB         755ACA        Private                               4,107
LTOLIB         756ACA        Private                               4,108
LTOLIB         757ACA        Private                               4,109
LTOLIB         758ACA        Private                               4,110

>From the 5 tapes that had access "destroyed" 1 returned to scratch (753ACA)
and 4 others became private.  What do I have to do with private tapes that
are
not assigned to a storage pool ??? What about 1 tape becoming scratch and
the
others remain private ??

723ACA is also a private tape which doesn't belong to a stgpool
754ACA is the tape which has the offsite_copy

tsm: VCR-TSM1>q vol

Volume Name               Storage      Device      Estimated    Pct   Volume
                          Pool Name    Class Name   Capacity   Util   Status
                                                        (MB)
------------------------  -----------  ----------  ---------  -----
--------
/tivoli/diskpool1/diskv-  BACKUPPOOL   DISK          2,000.0    0.0  On-Line
 ol1.tsm
/tivoli/diskpool1/diskv-  BACKUPPOOL   DISK          1,000.0    0.0  On-Line
 ol2.tsm
/tivoli/diskpool2/archv-  ARCHIVEPOOL  DISK             50.0    0.0  On-Line
 ol001.tsm
745ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0    3.1  Filling
746ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0    6.5  Filling
747ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0   18.8  Filling
748ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0    2.8  Filling
749ACA                    PTAPE_POOL   TAPE_CLASS  200,000.0    2.7  Filling
750ACA                    OFFSITE_2    TAPE_CLASS  100,000.0   66.7  Filling
754ACA                    OFFSITE_1    TAPE_CLASS  100,000.0   67.5  Filling
759ACA                    OFFSITE_3    TAPE_CLASS  100,000.0   61.4  Filling

Thank you very much in advance !!
Regards,

Wouter Verschaeve
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