That's great Del, thank you for letting me know.

Stefan

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 at 15:54, Del Hoobler <hoob...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> APAR IT33478 was created for adding this capability. This is targeted for
> the next release.
>
> This APAR will introduce a built-in quota for the defrag engine to limit
> the # of containers processed in one day
>
>
> Del
>
> ----------------------------------------------------
>
>
> "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU> wrote on 08/01/2020
> 08:32:13 AM:
>
> > From: Stefan Folkerts <stefan.folke...@gmail.com>
> > To: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > Date: 08/01/2020 08:32 AM
> > Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: AW: [ADSM-L] Move Container (Automatic)
> > filling up the directories
> > Sent by: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
> >
> > This automatic defragmentation needs an additional parameter to limit
> the
> > number of containers it will defrag in a day or a max percentage of
> actual
> > space used that when reached will stop the defrag so it can't fill up
> the
> > disk to 100% anymore.
> > I see too many cases of Spectrum Protect filling the filesystems to 100%
> > with these processes.
> > It's Saturday and I am working on one right now.
> >
> > Please look into this IBM.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 28, 2018 at 1:56 PM Erwann SIMON <erwann.si...@free.fr>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've just discovered that the defaults have been changed in 8.1.6
> (I've a
> > > test system just upgraded to 8.1.6.100) :
> > >
> > >
> > > Protect : TSMSRV1>q opt defragCntrTrigger
> > >
> > >             Server Option                          Option Setting
> > > -------------------------     -----------------------------------
> > >         defragCntrTrigger                                      90
> > >
> > > Protect : TSMSRV1>q opt defragFsTrigger
> > >
> > >             Server Option                          Option Setting
> > > -------------------------     -----------------------------------
> > >           defragFsTrigger                                      95
> > >
> > > I was running with 90 and 90 since my last post.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي
> > > Erwann SIMON
> > >
> > > ----- Mail original -----
> > > De: "Erwann SIMON" <erwann.si...@free.fr>
> > > À: "ADSM: Dist Stor Manager" <ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU>
> > > Envoyé: Jeudi 6 Décembre 2018 17:32:34
> > > Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] Move Container (Automatic) filling up
> the
> > > directories
> > >
> > > Hello Michael,
> > >
> > > Sorry for the delay and thanks a lot for the advices. I'm trying to
> find
> > > the right numbers for those two parameters.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي
> > > Erwann SIMON
> > >
> > > ----- Mail original -----
> > > De: "Michael Prix" <mich...@prix.one>
> > > À: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > > Envoyé: Jeudi 15 Novembre 2018 16:05:59
> > > Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] Move Container (Automatic) filling up
> the
> > > directories
> > >
> > > Hello Erwann,
> > >
> > >   it depends on what you want to archive. These options were
> implemented to
> > > reduce the fragmentation of the containers, like the good old
> reclamation
> > > of
> > > sequential volumes.
> > >   Adding to this, it came to the attention of IBM that a container,
> which
> > > got
> > > moved, should be subject to the reusedelay of the container storage
> pool.
> > > This
> > > wasn't taken care of until 7.1.8 / 8.1.x.
> > >   Speaking of this and putting the pieces together, you may get
> massive
> > > amount
> > > of "reclamation", the cleaned up containers are subject to reusedelay
> and
> > > suddenly you are in urgent need for additional and unplanned storage
> space.
> > >
> > >   Speaking of such, setting DEFRAGCNTRTRIGGER and DEFRAGFSTRIFFER to
> 99
> > > disables the automatic move container, then you can start lowering
> both
> > > parameters down to a level which suits you best.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Michael Prix
> > >
> > > On Thu, 2018-11-15 at 07:06 +0100, Erwann SIMON wrote:
> > > > Hi Michael and Uwe
> > > >
> > > > Thanks *a lot* for your replies. This is excatly what I was looking
> for.
> > > >
> > > > Did you adjust those options ? How ?
> > > >
> > > > I've was unable to find those server options in the Admin Reference
> Guide
> > > > and not visible with a standard Q OPT or with a generic Q OPT
> *DEFR*. I
> > > was
> > > > required to use Q OPT DEFRAGCNTRTRIGGER and Q OPT DEFRAGFSTRIGGER.
> Both
> > > > options are set to 50% (default).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I've found some words in a 8.1.5 presentation :
> > > >
> > > > 8.1.5+
> > > >
> > > > Defrag uses a new path in MOVE CONTAINER process to read in the
> chunks
> > > of a
> > > > given container and rewrite them via the standard ingest path,
> > > > redistributing them in available container space
> > > >
> > > > Move Container with defrag allows the user to achieve the goals of
> > > previous
> > > > workarounds much more easily
> > > > Container defrag can be invoked manually, with “MOVE CONTAINER
> <container
> > > > name> DEFRAG=YES”
> > > >
> > > > Auto-defrag engine periodically checks for container fragmentation
> > > > If containers surpass DEFRAGCNTRTRIGGER  & DEFRAGFSTRIGGER
> thresholds :
> > > > Automatically runs defrags
> > > > If % of available filesystem space or the % of container space which
> is
> > > > usable/available falls below these thresholds : Auto-defrag will
> > > > periodically start defrag processes for fragmented containers
> > > >
> > > > @Uwe
> > > > For one of the servers (the smallest one, Est. Cap of 12,5TB, Pct.
> Util
> > > of
> > > > 45%), upgrade has been made at the end of august. The conversion had
> been
> > > > made monthes ago, when the server was still in 7.1.
> > > > For another one (the biggest, Est. Cap of 235TB, Pct. Util of 65%),
> > > upgrade
> > > > has been made at the end of august too, then I started conversion
> and it
> > > has
> > > > just finished.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Best regards / Cordialement / مع تحياتي
> > > > Erwann SIMON
> > > >
> > > > ----- Mail original -----
> > > > De: "Michael Prix" <mich...@prix.one>
> > > > À: ADSM-L@VM.MARIST.EDU
> > > > Envoyé: Mercredi 14 Novembre 2018 19:25:10
> > > > Objet: Re: [ADSM-L] AW: [ADSM-L] Move Container (Automatic) filling
> up
> > > the
> > > > directories
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > >   and, to tell the rest, as both server options are not documented
> until
> > > > now,
> > > > I quote my documentation from a PMR:
> > > >
> > > > DEFRAGFSTRIGGER   0-99   dynamic server option
> > > > DEFRAGCNTRTRIGGER 0-99   dynamic server option
> > > >
> > > > If
> > > >
> > > > the percentage of free filesystem space is lower than
> > > (100-DEFRAGFSTRIGGER)
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > the percentage of container free space is lower than (100-
> > > > DEFRAGCNTRTRIGGER),
> > > > where those percentages are calculated by
> > > >
> > > > fsfreespace / (fsfreespace + dedup/nondedup cntralloc space)
> > > >
> > > > and
> > > >
> > > > (cntrFree - pool unaccessible ) / ( cntrFree + dedup/nondedup
> cntrUsed )
> > > >
> > > > If either threshold is met, then we'll look for containers with a
> > > fraglevel
> > > > higher than 80 to auto-defrag.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>

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